Main > Main Forum

KB32

Pages: << < (2/4) > >>

Tiger-Heli:


--- Quote from: EyeDoc on September 26, 2005, 02:02:53 am ---All valid points!  Actually I DID get it cheap....like $12.50 shipped off of eBay.  Worth what I paid for it, for sure.  Normally I use Jpacs/Ipacs, but I had to try this one for the price.   So far it is working fine for me.

I have not used a Keywiz yet, but that is what I am going to buy next.  I'm not interested in the shift functions though.  All I need is a normal 6 or 7 button per player layout (with coin, etc.)

--- End quote ---
Again, when you say there is no ghosting, you mean when you wired it up using alternating inputs, or when you used diodes, correct (I believe TOKN now recommends this method).

The reason I ask so much is b/c I have two web pages saying that the TOKN will produce ghosting if adjacent inputs are used, and I need to revise (or at least add a disclaimer) if that statement is no longer true.

My TOKN pages:
http://www.mameworld.net/tigerheli/encoder/tokn16/index.htm
http://www.mameworld.net/tigerheli/encoder/tokn32/index.htm

Havok:


--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on September 25, 2005, 11:14:24 pm ---Unless you get a real good deal on it ($10 MAX on the 32 input version), you'd be ALOT better off with a Keywiz Eco.
You get twice the inputs (counting the shift capabilities), no wiring hassles, and no last minute workarounds for faults with the intial design.
You may not NEED all of the features it has for the current project, but they will be there if you change your mind down the road.


For the record, the TOKN's didn't get a bum rap.
As designed they were absolutely useless for anything other than a 1-stick/2-button panel.

The guy selling them came in, lied about them, and claimed there were no problems with them when questioned.
When it was pointed out that there WERE problems found with them during independent testing, he lied some more, claimed WE were lying about his product, and then tried to get the threads containing the TRUTH about his encoders deleted from the forum.
When that didn't work, he used the suggestions here to fix some of the problems that his encoder "didn't" have, and is now claiming they work fine.

They may work, but they still have ALOT of shortcomings when compared to an I-pac or KeyWiz however.
If you want to run a different app, that doesn't allow you to reprogram the keys within the application, you have to hook a keyboard to the TOKN, and then program each button individually for the new app--using the blinking LED on the circuit board as your only interface.

I'll stick to the graphical programming utilities, and hotswap sets, that come with the I-pac and KeyWiz.
You can swap between full sets of inputs in seconds with both of them.
They were designed to allow full set keymashing, and their designers have been very upfront with the entire community.

The advice, support, and help that Randy and Andy have given this community has been tremendous, and I personally would have a hard time supporting the guy that came behind them, and tried to put one over on us, with only his own gain in mind.

--- End quote ---

TOKN's not a subsidiary of Ultracade, by any chance???

Hoopz:


--- Quote from: Havok on September 26, 2005, 12:26:24 pm ---

TOKN's not a subsidiary of Ultracade, by any chance???

--- End quote ---

LOL.

Tiger-Heli:


--- Quote from: HooPZ on September 26, 2005, 12:43:47 pm ---But then again, Tiger-Heli is RandyT according to MattP so anything is possible....    :-)

--- End quote ---
Good point.  I've also been told that using jumpers instead of connecting a switch was non-standard testing methodology, and been referred to as something like Heli-Homo in TOKN's E-bay advertisements.  A status few others can claim!!! (not that they'd want to  :P )

not that there's anything wrong with that . . . - Stingray

Raven..:


--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on September 26, 2005, 06:48:37 am ---
--- Quote from: EyeDoc on September 26, 2005, 02:02:53 am ---All valid points!
--- End quote ---

--- End quote ---


Pages: << < (2/4) > >>

Go to full version