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Grasshopper:
Forcing children to mindlessly recite a pledge whatever the wording is pretty lame IMHO. Even if all the god stuff is taken out it is a bit dubious to pressure children to take part in 'patriotic' exercises.

It is not universally accepted that patriotism is actually a good thing. Some people believe it can lead to nationalism, xenophobia, a belief that you're superior to other peoples and cultures, and even racism in countries that are not racially diverse.

If there must be a pledge then it should focus on values which are associated with America but which are universal and not solely American such democracy, freedom of expression etc.

ChadTower:

You know, whenever I recite the pledge in my head, it doesn't have "under God" in it. I was taught the pledge by my grandfather, and went to very traditional type schools, both public and private. I don't think I ever had to use the words "under God" as a kid, when I was in the US.

ClubNinja:

--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 15, 2005, 08:57:37 am ---
You know, whenever I recite the pledge in my head, it doesn't have "under God" in it.
--- End quote ---

ChadTower:

When I was feeling particularly Canadian, I would usually say "I pledge allegiance to the flag that Michael Jackson is a ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?---..."

Very, very quietly.

There was a whole pledge to Michael Jackson's gayness and flammability. I wish I could remember more of it now.

TheVengeance:
Is this nation not worth fighting for?

Some of what I am reading in this thread sounds like red commie talk.

The USA is the best <censored by saint> country in the world.

Yes, it is in disarray.
Yes, it is under attack on all fronts.
Yes, it is run by thieves and liars.
And Yes, it is corrupt.

But, I will die fighting before I give up what my ancestors fought and died for. This is our f'n country. We are it's children.

I am all for the pledge of allegiance in our public schools. "Under God" doesn't offend me as much as the last part..."With liberty and Justice for All".

...because we know that is a lie. A bigger lie than the sham that "Under God" is offensive

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