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SOAPboy:


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--- Quote ---Bernard Derr, 48, a man with a history of psychiatric problems, was taken into custody a short time after the attack and held on attempted murder and other charges, police said.
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But he has a history of psychiatric problems so lets make sure to coddle him and then get him back on the street as soon as possible so he can stab some more babies.

If the cops were allowed to do their job correctly, this piece of garbage would be at the bottom of a river by now.

-S

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It isn't the job of the police to be judge, jury and executioner. Or at least it isn't in the USA. Move to Iran if you think that is how the police should act.



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Be careful, thoughts like that will land you in a world of hurt once I'm made Emperor of the Cosmos.

Pardon the hell out of me for being disgusted at a baby stabber.

-S

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I'm not defending the guy. He should be put away forever. He probably isn't eligable for the death penalty anywhere in the US unless the baby dies.

I just think that you probably aren't thinking of the implications of having a state where the police have ultimate power to execute people without due process.

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He shouldnt be put away forever

He should be shot on sight..

shmokes:

Agreed, if by on sight you mean that the police saw him in the act of stabbing the baby. 

On the other hand, if you mean that the police come and the nanny describes the perpetrator and the direction he left in, and they in turn head off in that direction until they find someone who meets his description, well...you're dumb.

Dartful Dodger:


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Bones:

The guy is mentally ill. This is fact. Normal healthy people don't walk around stabbing random babies.

Society would be better if people who do such things were shot in the head immediately after confirmation they performed such acts.

I can't stand it when such people are defended. Some snotface mouthpiece in a new suit and with high hopes for that new work promotion will show the jury x-rays of the sick F***'s brain and explain how he was touched as a child and give all sorts of arguments and explanations as to why he isn't responsible for his actions.

It's not about revenge or punishment or making the loony suffer in pain for his atrocious actions, its about cleansing our society of this genetic garbage and making a better world for our babies that don't have a knife impaled in their chest.

Ohhh yeah, he stabbed a baby....F him.

shmokes:

First, we're talking about two different things.  The initial call was for police officers to be given the discretionary authority to perform this genetic cleansing.

Second, killing this guy as opposed to locking him up does nothing to make society any safer or make future generations less succeptible to similar mental illness.  You can argue that he's not worth the drag on the economy he becomes once he becomes a guest of the maximum security mental facilities, but people in prison/mental hospitals don't reproduce and they don't stab babies.

For me, part of my implied contract with the government is their promise to take care of me if they deem it necessary to take away my ability to work and take care of myself.  For the greater good of society as well as my own welfare, I grant my government the authority to take me into custody if I am deemed a danger to others.  I'm willing to potentially give up my liberty because of the benefit I get from it (all the other wacko's who lose their liberty to make me safer).  I don't want the government to have the authority to take my life from me except under the most extreme circumstances (as in, I am about to fire a gun at somebody and my life must be taken to keep me from taking someone else's, etc.).  In exchange for conceding some of my liberty to the government I expect that if they do put me in a cage that they will keep me reasonably well fed and warm, maybe provide me with some books and some work to do.

I know that this is all implied stuff.  and that the government doesn't personally sign a contract with each citizen.  But this is how I understand it.  Society gets a lot of benefits from having authority to incarcerate its citizens.  There's no harm in paying a price for those benefits.

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