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| DarkKobold:
--- Quote from: saint on September 08, 2005, 12:01:58 pm ---I'm pretty sure you're the only one who thinks like that. --- End quote --- Actually, maybe in today's society, but in ancient Greece, there was actually a higher value put on the lives of elderly than the young. Just because today's society values the youth, does not make it "right." Personally, I think all life should be valued the same. Why is a 12 year old getting murdered somehow worse than a 24 year old? Both had lives ahead of them. Both had potential to do something great for the world, and experience many great things. Both are tradgedies. Why should one be valued greater than another? |
| shmokes:
I doubt gun control is going to help much, if at all. I am a firm believer in smart gun control. I think that guns should be tracked. I think that gun registration should be mandatory where non-gun dealers are selling to eachother, similar to selling a vehicle. I think it should be illegal for me to go to Dartful's house, give him $500 and walk away with a gun. I should be required to register it. But trying to actually keep guns off the street at this point is probably an exercise in futility. By the way, before anyone tries to track down conflicting statements, I think my position on gun control may have softened some over the last year. To answer your question Fredster, I'd say that the single most effective solution would be poverty control. And considering the economic boom of the 90's I'd guess that had some impact crime rate. As far as NoOne's statements, crimerates dropped across the board in America in that time frame. For those numbers to show what you'd like them to show you would need to show, say, the average crime rate decrease of death penalty states compared to the average crime rate decrease of states without the death penalty. Here's some highly partisan hypotheses about possible causes of that crime drop that are unrelated to the death penalty: The Clinton-Gore Administration |
| shmokes:
LMAO, I just noticed the spike at the end of that graph. Maybe it was just Clinton ;D |
| Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: shmokes on September 13, 2005, 06:32:59 pm ---I doubt gun control is going to help much, if at all. --- End quote --- |
| shmokes:
--- Quote from: Dartful Dodger on September 13, 2005, 06:47:24 pm --- You should be ashamed of yourself. --- End quote --- How do you know I'm not? |
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