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I've seen some random and cruel stuff, but...
shmokes:
--- Quote from: NoOne=NBA= on September 12, 2005, 11:10:30 pm ---The few things I would add to that are:
1) There are ZERO repeat offenders under that program.
2) If we are not housing the murderers, rapists, etc... we can use the existing funds/space to lock up people that may be rehabilitated (drug dealers, armed robbers, etc...) after they serve a decent sentence.
If someone actually gets 15 years for auto theft, they will definitely think twice before doing it again.
Further, their buddy (who sees them get 15 years) will definitely think about the future of his chosen line of work.
3) Why is it that the people screaming loudest for "tolerance" of their chosen lifestyle are the LEAST tolerant of the views of others?
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1- If we just put people to death for all felonies there would be zero repeat offendors for any of them Grand theft, credit card fraud, drug dealing, etc.
2- If we're not housing the drug dealers and armed robbers we could use the money for...anything.
3- What in the name of god are you talking about?
Bones:
I get the feeling your becoming a little frustrated shmokes. like I can't see the bigger picture or something and that's OK.
Perhaps it is not the governments job, perhaps a standard of crimes need to be re-defined via a wide cross section of the community. Afterall, the law exists only to serve the people.
I know you have an interest in law and I assume it has the potential of being a passion seeing as though you are contemplating going back to school to become qualified. But consider this....
Perhaps the whole system is wrong. Perhaps to many lawyers got rich and to many clients became famous. Perhaps the real definition of right and wrong became clouded due to 200 years of smoke screens, case studies or scandals.
Some crimes, and I emphasise some, should not need to be trialed in the traditional manner. They shouldn't even see a court room. Video footage of a man raping a child (and yep, the sickos do tape themselves), should instantly wave all rights the offender has. We don't need to talk to him or hear from his 3rd class teacher. We shouldn't care if the actions can be justified because they can't.
The process needs to be simplified and once it is simplified standard punishments for offences can be dictated by the people, or the government, or by me.
To simple? Hell yes, also effective, financially viable and a massive deterant.
Heartless? Yep. Don't rape a child and you won't be killed. That's not much to ask.
I use the child sex example because it should strike an emotion, it should be disturbing, I used this to my advantage and I am aware of this.
My idea will never happen. It would be considered outrageous or disturbing, people would think I am sick and I would be the one who is locked up. And now my point can be realised.
People have forgotten what evil is. We hear it every day on our radios or read about it on the net. We have become desensitized. If the baby thread did not exist then this is the type of story you hear and forget about in a couple of days.
Horrible stories like this have become common and so has our tolerance towards them. If the law had branched in a different direct 100 years ago where a child rapist was executed, the very thought of such an offender not being killed would strike at our beliefs.
Unlearn what you have learned and humour the thought if only for a few seconds.
paigeoliver:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on September 12, 2005, 09:50:30 am ---
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on September 12, 2005, 01:22:02 am ---I AM in favor of high-rise prisons, as the idiots who seem to design them in my area can't come up with anything that doesn't swallow up a thousand acres on which is planted, at best, a 3 story building. 2 stories if it's a large facility. Go underground as well. Might as well save on heating and cooling bills and use the earth to save us money there.
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Can't be done, Drew. It's not possible to evacuate a 9 story prison in the case of a fire or similar emergency. Not with any type of order or without rioting. It's ironic, really, that we have to protect the prisoners from themselves, but there we are.
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And that is a bad thing in what way?
Make the whole prison brick and stone and it can't burn down.
If I had my way then prisons would only have murderers in them. For other crimes first offense = short jail time (variable by crime), and a warning. 2nd offense gets you a dozen ID tattoos, and then deportation to the African nation of the judge's choice. Being caught in America after being deported gets you tossed in prison with the murderers, for life.
As for deportation method? Booted out of the airplane with a parachute!
The program would be cheap, and highly effective. I personally think be dropped off penniless in Ethiopia is a larger deterrent to crime than prison ever would be.
Bones:
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 13, 2005, 05:06:35 am ---The program would be cheap, and highly effective. I personally think be dropped off penniless in Ethiopia is a larger deterrent to crime than prison ever would be.
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No way man. All those villagers with their breasts out, damn I wanna commit a crime just thinking about them.
paigeoliver:
--- Quote from: BrokenBones on September 13, 2005, 05:18:01 am ---
--- Quote from: paigeoliver on September 13, 2005, 05:06:35 am ---The program would be cheap, and highly effective. I personally think be dropped off penniless in Ethiopia is a larger deterrent to crime than prison ever would be.
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No way man. All those villagers with their breasts out, damn I wanna commit a crime just thinking about them.
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I'm sure the villagers will be more than equipped to deal with any crimes that might be committed by the new immigrants.