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| spystyle:
X-arcade has very cheap buttons and sticks: http://www.x-arcade.com/arcade_parts.shtml In my opinion they are decent quality (considering the price) but have noisey microswitches (compared to Happ) But they work just fine. I put them in a cabinet I made for my sister's house a year ago and they have held up just fine to considerable use. In the future you could always "upgrade" to cherry switches if you wanted to. Dig it? Craig |
| TOK:
--- Quote from: Ninja Supremacist on September 03, 2005, 08:51:06 am --- --- Quote from: TOK on September 03, 2005, 08:23:29 am ---Don't buy the junk, and don't buy the real stuff directly from Happ. --- End quote --- That seems to be the beginning and the end of these responses. No offense, please. I just can't understand why. What would I be risking? An authentic feeling which could be entirely subjective? I appreciate the references. Thanks. I'll check those guys. As for Ponyboy... I want to do business with him but he hasn't responded yet. Is that because I'm a newb here? "Right now" isn't necessary but "eventually" seems like a nice second choice. --- End quote --- Subjective is it, but I can only speak from my experience. I think pretty much every time I've skimped on something, I've ended up regretting it and spent more to do it right. I tried a Suzo 2.5" trackball. Neither the size of the ball or the construction of the rollers felt good to me compared to the Happ 3". After I tried the Suzo, I went back and bought the Happ, then had to modify my control panel and cut a new piece of plexi to fit it. Your controls your interface between your body and your machine. If they are a limiting factor, the whole experience suffers. The difference between a great set of controls and a bad set is probably less than $50. If the budget is that tight, you might be in the wrong hobby. I think I spent about $175 in stuff I hadn't anticipated while building my cabinet, and that's a conservative estimate. Its amazing how miscellaneous hardware and tools you need add up. |
| Ninja Supremacist:
I think x-arcade is a perfect case-in-point. It is durable. I owned one years ago. There's no way you can reasonably call it junk. It certainly doesn't "play like ass", whatever that means. That said, I don't care for the chassis design or the button layout. Furthermore, the Ford Model T button policy is a bit aggravating... you can have any color you want as long as its black. I know Saint isn't against the x-arcade. Would Saint advertise any junk here? No way. This crowd would eat him alive and kill the credibility of this site if it was that bad. Anything above 75 cents per button is robbery in my view. Where are the guys putting out this alleged "junk"? Something around this issue smells like blind acceptance. |
| spystyle:
If you find buttons for less than 75 cents let us know! Until then, X-arcade buttons are $1 each and their sticks are $10. You might be able to save by scouring eBay... The trick is : the X-arcade buttons and sticks are the cheapest that we have confirmed. You may save $10 by ordering from Asia but end up waiting 3 weeks for the order to come in the mail and maybe they'll fall apart after some use - or maybe they just won't be responsive in the first place. You know there is no limit to how poor manufacturing standards can fall. Haven't you ever bought something that fell apart? The sticker read "Taiwan" and it was of such poor quality that it didn't hold up to nominal use? If not you are a young consumer and eventually will. And I will second the other members : Happ is the industry standard for good reason, it's worth the extra bucks because on a cab the controls and screen are the most important parts - that's what your players will see and touch. I have Happ controls on my primary cabinet and every time I DON'T hear that "clickity clack" of the cheap microswitches I am happy. But budget is always a factor, if budget does not allow for Happ ordering what your fellow board members have tested is wise. Otherwise, find the cheapest possible buttons and sticks and give us a full report, but know that it is a gamble and you might lose. Dig it? Craig |
| Ninja Supremacist:
I'm nauseous at the concept of defending anything from The Notorious (TM) Shawn Walters (TM) of X-arcade (TM) but the information needs to be cleared up... The only way to buy x-arcade components is to buy the joystick/buttons combination for $30. If you assume a low retail value of the sticks at $8 each, $14 remains to be divided among the buttons. That brings the buttons to $0.70 each at _retail_. I doubt they or Happ or Wico pay more than $0.05 per button. As for 75 cents per button, I've found it. They are internal microswitch, however. The external microswitch buttons by the same company are $0.90 in lots of 20. Check dreamarcades. I chose external for potential maintenance issues. They don't have the variety of colors that Happ has but I seriously doubt that's a commentary on quality. Cheap != quality and expensive != quality. However, monopoly and duopoly usually means price fixing. In every other industry, prices hit the floor over time. The retro/amusement industry seems to be able to ignore economics. |
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