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Q*Bert_OP:

--- Quote from: Stingray on September 02, 2005, 08:52:29 am ---He's a real nostril hole.

-S

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 ??? <correction> A**HOLE!!! [/correction]

ValamirCleaver:
Here we go again...  ::)

--- Quote ---Gottlieb ‘virtually’ returns to pinball through Nanotech Entertainment @ Arcade Heroes
Now classic Gottlieb tables are on their way back in virtual form due to an agreement that newcomer Nanotech Entertainment made with the existing Gottlieb Development LLC (personally I had no idea that they were still around). The pinball tables are being recreated for Nanotech’s Multipin video based pinball machine which states that it uses a special engine to recreate the feel of bumping and nudging a table to move the ball around accurately. According to the company website they have two flavors of the MultiPin machine, with the much more expensive MultiPin Gold table suggesting that it will be the one to support more classic tables (Gottlieb isn’t mentioned specifically but I doubt that they would go to all of this trouble to release these tables on a limited edition unit). Pictured is the standard unit, the Gold one has a different color layout.
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--- Quote ---Foley finally comes out of the woodwork again @ VPForums
First let me say hello to many of you that I have not talked to in a couple of years. I've taken a couple of years off after my differences with Global VR.

I know a lot about NanoTech and the associated questions and will offer my input and opinions. Since there are really several topics, I'll start separate threads for each of the topics and stick to the information about Gottlieb in this thread.
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Seeing how "well" things went over with a Visual Pinball and VPinMAME powered UltraPin I wonder what makes them think a Future Pinball powered MultiPin will do any better?  ::)

 One can read up on what Foley has to say at VPForums. If one chooses to do so I’d also suggest to check the archives to read his posts and the responses concerning UltraPin back from about 2-3 years ago. It should help put one’s opinion regarding the situation in better perspective.

RayB:

--- Quote from: ValamirCleaver on July 11, 2008, 12:02:17 am ---Seeing how "well" things went over with a Visual Pinball and VPinMAME powered UltraPin I wonder what makes them think a Future Pinball powered MultiPin will do any better?  ::)
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Do you happen to be privy to Ultrapin sales figures or something?  How can you know it wasn't profitable? In the arcade business, selling just a few thousand machines can be enough to cover your bottom line.

According to David Foley himself, they sold 30,000 Ultrapins. That's more units than Stern Pinball
sells in a year.

It's one thing to dislike a guy, but to let that cloud your judgement ...

* Retracted *

RayB:
Thanks for the double-post Valamir.
 :banghead:

ValamirCleaver:

--- Quote from: RayB on July 11, 2008, 12:25:07 pm ---According to David Foley himself, they sold 30,000 Ultrapins.
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30,000? ??? I don't ever recall hearing anything close to that number cited, but why would would one even consider that figure be even close to believable? ::) Especially in light of the average number of sales that Stern Pinball has for all releases for any one year, which I recall previously read to be around 10,000 units? ::) Someone correct me if that figure is incorrect. Let's see what Foley himself personally posted yesterday... ::)


--- Quote from: davidrfoley ---Originally posted by davidrfoley @ VPForums
If they swapped out for your version and didn't license it from you, then I would contact Global VR and demand your royalties. Since the product is dead, there isn't much to gain, but they did ship about 150 to 200 machines, so it would be worth something.
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150 to 200 machines is a far cry from 30,000...  ::)

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