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Control w/ Authentic Pac-Feel?
TurboC--:
You are all confusing me!!! :P
When you talk about Wico, do you mean the old Atari-compatible Wicos with leaf switches? I actually have 2 of those (Wico Command Control), I always liked them but never thought they would be arcade quality. Maybe with the homemade restrictor plate... Geez, half of the point of the project was having a real arcade stick - if I end up using a modified version of the one I've already had for 20 years, that would seem like quite a waste. At this point I would give up 4/8 way switchability for a true Pac-feel, but seems like someone has something negative to say about all of the available choices. It's hard to know who to believe without trying them myself.
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--- Quote from: TurboC-- on August 09, 2005, 08:21:48 pm --- It's hard to know who to believe without trying them myself.
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Exactly. Alot of what you are seeking is subjective and opinions will vary. For the exact pac feel, get an original Wico 4 way leaf joystick. That's what was in the original game. Barring that, try the others and get what makes YOU happy...
TurboC--:
Trying them costs money. :P
If the Happ Reunion stick IS an exact replacement for the Ms Pac / Galaga reunion game, then it should be fine? But someone is saying it goes cornerwise? I actually just got back from walking down to the local ice rink, they used to have a MsPac/Galaga reunion, but now it isn't there anymore. Honestly when it comes down to it, the joystick is absolutely the most important piece of the whole thing. It's easy to get caught up in all the artwork restoration I am doing and everything else, but without the right stick, basically the whole thing is crap. I can always switch it out, I guess, if I don't like it.
I see the Wico 4-way leaf NOS is only $25 from Nicade. I don't suppose I can change the restrictor plate from 4 to 8-way when I want? I imagine not. Ah well. This looks like the best option though (till someone talks me out of it!)
NoOne=NBA=:
--- Quote from: TurboC-- on August 09, 2005, 08:21:48 pm ---You are all confusing me!!! :P
When you talk about Wico, do you mean the old Atari-compatible Wicos with leaf switches? I actually have 2 of those (Wico Command Control), I always liked them but never thought they would be arcade quality.
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The guts on those are nearly identical to the 1000s of Wicos that came standard on most arcade machines prior to about 1985, or so--but they are not the same.
The ones I'm talking about were the stock sticks on Robotron, to name the most popular game that used them.
--- Quote ---Maybe with the homemade restrictor plate... Geez, half of the point of the project was having a real arcade stick - if I end up using a modified version of the one I've already had for 20 years, that would seem like quite a waste.
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My restrictor plate stipulation is because I don't like sticks that overtravel.
The 49-way, with digital restriction from Groovy Game Gear will act exactly like a 4-way electronically, but not physically.
It will still travel around in a big circle physically.
--- Quote ---At this point I would give up 4/8 way switchability for a true Pac-feel, but seems like someone has something negative to say about all of the available choices. It's hard to know who to believe without trying them myself.
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That's what I did, and continue to do to this day.
I just got done creating a hybrid stick for my Crazy Climber that has a Competition base, but uses T-stik switches.
That tightens up the stick alot, as far as the initial contact points go.
I still don't like the fact that the stick travels way too far after contacting though.
I need to keep working on it, but I WILL find the perfect joysticks for that one yet.
That said, there is no PERFECT stick for all games.
If you want a "true Pac feel", you should probably get the best condition original Pac-stick you can find, or go with the Reunion sticks.
Those are your two best bets at getting the proper feel you want from a stick.
NoOne=NBA=:
--- Quote from: TurboC-- on August 09, 2005, 09:07:35 pm ---I see the Wico 4-way leaf NOS is only $25 from Nicade. I don't suppose I can change the restrictor plate from 4 to 8-way when I want?
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No, the 4/8-way restrictors are built right into the joystick base itself.
Swapping them out means changing the entire base to the stick.
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OK, let me give it a try.
The Wico does not feel anything like a Pac-stick; and was NOT standard on them, as was suggested earlier.
The Wico has a considerably longer travel to the stick, is not as responsive initially as the Pac-stick, and has a longer shaft, larger ball, and no texture on the ball.
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