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ahofle:
Back to the topic of the original poster (CRT vs LCD)....Have there been any recent changes in LCD 'refresh' speeds?  Last time I played a game on one at my friend's house, the picture was very blurry when the entire screen scrolls (pretty much all the time in first person shooters).  You could also see the effect by dragging a window *slowly* from left to right.  You get a blurriness with the LCD, but with a CRT it's very smooth.  I'm just curious if this has been improved to the point of not being able to tell the difference (I think they call this 'latency' on LCDs instead of refresh).  It's the one thing preventing me from getting one.
pointdablame:

--- Quote from: ahofle on July 28, 2005, 11:07:27 am ---Back to the topic of the original poster (CRT vs LCD)....Have there been any recent changes in LCD 'refresh' speeds?  Last time I played a game on one at my friend's house, the picture was very blurry when the entire screen scrolls (pretty much all the time in first person shooters).  You could also see the effect by dragging a window *slowly* from left to right.  You get a blurriness with the LCD, but with a CRT it's very smooth.  I'm just curious if this has been improved to the point of not being able to tell the difference (I think they call this 'latency' on LCDs instead of refresh).  It's the one thing preventing me from getting one.

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Read my first reply.. I've already mentioned this :)

Newer LCDs have NO PROBLEM with games.  When LCD's had refresh rates of 25ms+, there were often ghosting issues (the blurriness you talk about).

If you get yourself a 16ms or 12ms LCD from a quality manufacturer, you will NOT see ghosting... I can almost guarantee it.  My Dell 1800fp is actually a 25ms LCD, but has zero ghosting.   When it was first released, it was a bit of an odd duck because of this... no one undesrtood why it did so good with games, but it did.. and it does :)

Basically any decent LCD you'll find these days will be under 20ms.  Read a few reviews on the particular model you are looking at, but gaming on LCDs is not a problem anymore... it hasn't been for years.
ahofle:
Ah thx. :)  Specific latency numbers help (I didn't have a clue what was good enough to eliminate the blurriness).  And some people don't even notice it (like my friend).
Flack:
I run two monitors on my home PC. Well, not exactly two monitors. I run my onboard video out to a monitor, and then I added another videocard with TV out that runs out to my projector for watching movies and playing games on. Works great! Like others have said, I can just simply drag Media Player or PowerDVD over to the second screen, full screen it, and voila, works great. Occasionally I'll drag WinAmp over there and just have the video plugins playing on the wall. I'm bored a lot.

Also, the LCD is true, the newer the faster refresh rate you'll have and the better it'll look. Even the ones at Wal-Mart now are 15/10ms. If the ad doesn't list the refresh rate ... look out.

And by the way, I'm also a member of the old monitor orphanage. I threw away all the 15" ones and still have a pile of 17" and 21" monitors lying around.
u_rebelscum:

--- Quote from: pointdablame on July 28, 2005, 11:37:13 am ---
--- Quote from: ahofle on July 28, 2005, 11:07:27 am --- I'm just curious if this has been improved to the point of not being able to tell the difference (I think they call this 'latency' on LCDs instead of refresh).  It's the one thing preventing me from getting one.

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Newer LCDs have NO PROBLEM with games.  When LCD's had refresh rates of 25ms+, there were often ghosting issues (the blurriness you talk about). .... but gaming on LCDs is not a problem anymore... it hasn't been for years.

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As I posted in an other thread, this is almost true for everyone.  Some poeple, however, still see ghosting on 12 and even 8 ms LCDs.  This depends on the person.

Saying "Newer LCDs have NO PROBLEM with games", IMO, is an overgeneralization.

My 16ms LCD at work is not fast enough for me for gaming.  So ahofle, be sure to check how the exact model looks to you before buying.  Much like buying CRTs, cars, and beds.
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