Author Topic: JUNO FIRST restoration - THE END (Read 23819 times)

RayB · « **on:** July 12, 2005, 12:37:21 pm »

UPDATE November 11, 2016: *This story is now over*
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I now have in my posession the rare JUNO FIRST (gutted cabinet).

Side art is nice, but has scuffs of course. One side is showing humidity damage, but the other side is nice n smooth.

I have already won a very nice marquee off Ebay, and have ordered a complete original control panel. Next things I need (help me out guys if you find any of this stuff):

~~- Gottlieb logo coin door~~ - Thanks to Deefish ! 02/22/06
~~- Bezel artwork~~ Got it - 02/08/06
~~- Front artwork~~ (just below the control panel on the front--mine is black) Got it - 02/08/06
~~- PCB~~ (though I am debating just using MAME...) Got it - 02/12/05

Stuff it needs which I can easily order:
- New black leather texture t-molding
- Maybe some partsexpress black laminate on the front (though i could use paint)
~~- glass~~ Got the original with art and smoked plexi - 02/08/06
- ~~vertical mount monitor~~ Got one - 09/18/05

Pics are posted below:

flampoo · « **Reply #1 on:** July 12, 2005, 02:10:59 pm »

Juno da' firss ting you needa' do is poss pics.

TOK · « **Reply #2 on:** July 12, 2005, 05:21:25 pm »

This is a great game. I heard of it, but I never saw an original even though I spent a lot of time in arcades in the 80's. Gets me all spazzed out, kind of like Robotron used to before I played it 10,000 times.

RayB · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2005, 01:46:34 pm »

Photos:

Also, just ordered a complete original control panel from QuarterArcade.

ChadTower · « **Reply #4 on:** July 15, 2005, 04:29:38 pm »

Oh wow, that's a good looking cab. Stenciled?

RayB · « **Reply #5 on:** July 15, 2005, 05:40:56 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 15, 2005, 04:29:38 pm

Stenciled?

Yes.

ChadTower · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2005, 09:35:16 pm »

Best of luck! I've never seen or heard of Juno First, but damn if that cab and the screenshot doesn't scream hella cool potential.

RayB · « **Reply #7 on:** July 18, 2005, 05:09:25 pm »

Installed the marquee:

bjk7382 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 18, 2005, 09:43:22 pm »

Nice cabinet. I love this game. I have never played the arcade, but use to play the atari 800 version all the time.

RayB · « **Reply #9 on:** July 22, 2005, 12:58:48 pm »

Just got an original control panel with all original parts (from QuarterArcade.com )

DarkKobold · « **Reply #10 on:** July 22, 2005, 03:04:36 pm »

That is sexy. Something about original cabs just screams, rawr.

RayB · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2005, 11:50:12 am »

Here it is with CP installed.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2005, 12:09:07 pm »

I never played it at the arcade, but I played it on the test rig for my MAME cocktail I'm building. It's actually a pretty fun game, and the bass is incredible. It really hits the lows.

I know it's not factory original, but you might want to consider dropping a cheap amplified bass tube in the bottom of that thing to pick up the lows. I've seen them at Circuit City for $40 or $50 including built-in amp.

RayB · « **Reply #13 on:** September 19, 2005, 11:58:46 am »

Have now acquired a vertical shelf-mount monitor. I also have my eye on a PCB on Ebay...

RayB · « **Reply #14 on:** November 14, 2005, 04:44:14 pm »

Patience has rewarded me. Won a tested working PCB off Ebay for a great price. Looks like this machine won't be running a PC under the hood after all.

subcriminal · « **Reply #15 on:** November 18, 2005, 12:26:29 pm »

Very nice cab there! The artwork above the monitor inside the cabinet is cool, bet it'll look good when the monitor lights it up.
Always nice to see original cabinets getting restored and PCB's fitted.

RayB · « **Reply #16 on:** December 04, 2005, 12:29:11 pm »

Got a PCB, from the UK. Got gouged on shipping. I really didn't expect it to cost so much, seeing how cheap it is when I order stuff from Ultimarc.

My cab's wiring and monitor are not set up. Lucky for me I have a Taito style cocktail that is already wired up for "Konami classics" pinout.

I checked all wiring, to make sure nothing's wrong... plugged the board in, powered up... Nothing. Weird lines on screen, and a repeating "thucking" sound. How disappointing.

I expecting to need to adjust the power, and this is what I did, but at first power seemed to be too high. (+5.64). This worried me that I could have damaged something. But the power knob was all the way down.

After a couple times cleaning/reseating the connector, it occured to me to measure the voltage AT THE BOARD. That's right, I was measuring it right off the power supply before. Well whatta ya know. At the board it was around +4.2 volts. Too low!

I powered down, and adjust the power knob slightly several times. The garbage on screen eventually was slightly different. Finally after about the 5th adjustment of the knob, a high score table!! YES! Board works as advertised by the seller!

Played a couple rounds and promptly decided I need to find the dipswitch settings cuz this thing is on EASY (way too easy!)

Pics later...

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #17 on:** December 04, 2005, 07:09:55 pm »

Great to hear, RayB!!

Cheers.

RayB · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:50:05 pm »

Well today was a great day for Juno First. Thanks to another fan of the game, I managed to secure:

- Original glass
- with original bezel art
- and with the original smoked plexiglass
- plus the original monitor shroud
- a coin bucket
- and that's not all folks...
- ... the front artwork

I don't know if the seller wants his name plastered on message boards, so I'll just refer to him as the Barette Baron.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:55:59 pm »

That looks GRREAT -- congrats!

Cheers.

MameMaster! · « **Reply #20 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:42:06 pm »

that looks great!...nice restoration.

I never saw it either in the arcades...but I have tried it in Mame

spriggy · « **Reply #21 on:** February 09, 2006, 08:58:36 pm »

Well done on the part aquirments RayB. Have you decided to re-stencil her or not?

RayB · « **Reply #22 on:** February 10, 2006, 12:06:47 am »

Quote from: spriggy on February 09, 2006, 08:58:36 pm

Well done on the part aquirments RayB. Have you decided to re-stencil her or not?

I probably will not. At least not any time soon. If I do, it will be in couple years. I'd actually rather find another cab in better condition. This one is not perfect, but looks good from a few feet away.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #23 on:** February 10, 2006, 04:09:03 am »

dont how i missed this in december. nice find ray

. like everyone else here, didnt play it back in the day, but damn it rocks on mame!

RetroBorg · « **Reply #24 on:** February 10, 2006, 08:41:21 am »

I loved playing Juno First, it's a little bit like Defender but up and down the screen rather than left and right.

First time I ever played it was at an arcade called Kaleidescope in Adelaide, South Australia, it was a really hot night and a friend and I played it for about two hours, it is one of those games that's really physical, I can remember I had sweat running down my face and the joystick was hard to grip.

For those that haven't played give it a go.

Anyway RayB, looks like it's going to be a real nice cab.

Deefish · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2006, 06:07:34 pm »

Very nice Restoration. Great find too. Would you like to have this to really complete the Outside Parts?

RayB · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2006, 09:11:17 pm »

Quote from: deefish on February 10, 2006, 06:07:34 pm

Very nice Restoration. Great find too. Would you like to have this to really complete the Outside Parts?

Yessss!!!!! Tell me you are selling and not just TORTURING ME?!?

Deefish · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2006, 10:15:09 pm »

Whats your zip so I can find out what he shipping will be? then I will shoot you a total.

Email deefish AT cox DOT net

RayB · « **Reply #28 on:** February 22, 2006, 01:33:02 pm »

Got the Gottlieb coin door today thanks to Deefish!!

driph · « **Reply #29 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:09:53 pm »

Great looking cab. I love the style of the artwork.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #30 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:41:17 pm »

That coin door is really going to dress that up -- that was a nice thing to do, Deefish!

C'mon RayB ... I can hardly wait for more pictures ...

Cheers.

markrvp · « **Reply #31 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:48:39 pm »

Cheers to Deefish for offering up a coin door. Do you have the art and bezel installed yet, Ray?

RayB · « **Reply #32 on:** February 24, 2006, 12:11:43 pm »

Quote from: markrvp on February 22, 2006, 11:48:39 pm

Cheers to Deefish for offering up a coin door. Do you have the art and bezel installed yet, Ray?

Here's a pic of the glass/bezel installed. I haven't installed the coin door yet.

RayB · « **Reply #33 on:** February 24, 2006, 12:28:00 pm »

I have a choice to make with my front artwork... The original art is an overlay, applied to two front wood parts of the cabinet, just below the control panel. I have in my posession the actual pieces of the cabinet with the art on it.

To install it, as I see it I have two choices:

1. Route the art pieces down till its about 1/4" or less thick, then glue to my cabinet.

2. Cut out the whole part and glue in the one with art on it. (con: structural strength will probably be less than it is now, though I could reinforce with L brackets inside).

Pics:

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #34 on:** February 24, 2006, 01:49:14 pm »

RayB -- that looks bloody brilliant!!

I think I would go for option 2, if I am reading things correctly, and use some screwed-and-glued backer blocks instead of L-brackets (then you get the extra strength from the additional glued surfaces).

Looks Great!!

Cheers.

RayB · « **Reply #35 on:** February 24, 2006, 05:59:00 pm »

OK, so I go to install the Gottlieb "logo" coin door... The cabinet currently has a Coin Controls over/under. The Gottlieb door is made by Wico, but it's a perfect fit for the CC frame. The only problem is... the Gott door didn't come with a hinge, and the CC door hinge is bonded (welded?) to the CC door.

Any ideas?

Deefish · « **Reply #36 on:** February 24, 2006, 08:03:21 pm »

Huh? Weird, So the CC has a hinge but its welded to the frame and door? Can you use a cutout disk and cut it away without damaging the hinge? You may want to go with another coin door frame, if you have a spare, and remove that one and put on some other machine. Would a swap like that enable you to install the logo door? Check some of your other machines to see which one would work, I bet you have one you could flip them on.

Sorry RayB for no hinge. Thats the way I got it.

Anyone every seen those sold on any parts websites? You would think that they would, since you can bend them fairly easily. I guess most ops would just replace the whole front, frame and all. Somebody on here might have and old beat up coin door that they could salvage the hinge from it.....

I will search the net and check my links to see if one of the many sites I've got parts from might have something.

Oh, that sucks about having to cut the piece off of an old Juno. To bad you cant get the lower Artwork NOS or something.

cheers,
deefish

nostrebor · « **Reply #37 on:** February 24, 2006, 09:47:36 pm »

The coinco doors are "spot"welded to the hinges. You can drill down thru the center of each spot weld and seperate the door from the hinge. Unless you have a welder, it maight be less than fun to put the new door back on there.

With a mig I would just "spot" weld the Gott door back on the hinge. Maybe have a local welder or a friend do it for you?

RayB · « **Reply #38 on:** February 25, 2006, 05:34:34 pm »

Welp, first thing I'm doing is lookin for a proper sized hinge, which I may be able to cut to the right length and just screw to the door. The Gottlieb door has screw holes.

As for removing the hinge from the CC door, I'll look into it, but I'm really afraid I'd end up with a mangled crooked hinge.

~RB

Karman · « **Reply #39 on:** March 03, 2006, 11:23:24 am »

That Gottlieb logo door is actually part of a Wico coin door. They made an over/under and side by side version. Along with Gottlieb, they also produced Centuri, Taito and Cinematronics logo plates (mostly for the side by side). The Cinematronics side by side is the coveted coin door for Dragons Lair enthusiasts. Anyway, I would try to find another Wico door and frame and use your Gottleib logo top door with it. It will work and look much better than a Wico/Coin Controls frankendoor. The Wicos were cast and the CC were stamped. You may have to search through a lot of ebay listings for "Arcade Coin Door", but they're common enough that you shouldn't have much trouble. The top door that you have for your Juno First is sought after by Q*Bert folks, by the way, as not all Q*Berts came with them.

RayB · « **Reply #40 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:22:01 pm »

I thought you peeps deserved some more eye candy. The following machines were organ donors for my restoration:

ChadTower · « **Reply #41 on:** August 19, 2008, 02:31:35 pm »

Three of them? That must have taken some doing.

arcadefever · « **Reply #42 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:27:30 pm »

the first one need some blood transfusion

Mauzy · « **Reply #43 on:** August 19, 2008, 10:38:48 pm »

So what happens to the the cab that wasn't restored and wasn't split in half?

RayB · « **Reply #44 on:** August 19, 2008, 11:12:34 pm »

OK guys, I purposely left out details to get you riled up. Those machines belonged to someone else. They were seriously water damaged and stripped of parts. The guy was completing 3 machines from 6 donors, and he was gracious enough to supply me with some parts to finish mine. So in the end, 2 very crappy water-damaged machines got sledge-hammered, while 2 got restored.

Mauzy · « **Reply #45 on:** August 19, 2008, 11:15:55 pm »

ah ha! i couldn't for the life of me figure out how someone who has been here for a while could tear the top out of that cab...

glad to hear 2 got restored.

arcadefever · « **Reply #46 on:** August 23, 2008, 12:14:00 pm »

By the way, i have notice that you always mention the game when ever somebody ask about great shooter game...
i have played the game in my 48-1 and i love it

what a great game ...

RayB · « **Reply #47 on:** August 23, 2008, 07:26:40 pm »

Quote from: arcadefever on August 23, 2008, 12:14:00 pm

By the way, i have notice that you always mention the game when ever somebody ask about great shooter game...
i have played the game in my 48-1 and i love it what a great game ...

Try it in MAME. The sound effects are all messed up on the 48-in-1.

RayB · « **Reply #48 on:** December 03, 2011, 11:52:19 pm »

Quote from: RayB on February 10, 2006, 12:06:47 am

Quote from: spriggy on February 09, 2006, 08:58:36 pm
Well done on the part aquirments RayB. Have you decided to re-stencil her or not?
I probably will not. At least not any time soon. If I do, it will be in couple years. I'd actually rather find another cab in better condition. This one is not perfect, but looks good from a few feet away.

New shell finally acquired!
It's housing "Arkanoid" right now and is painted grey, but the paint is coming right off real easy using a technique I just learned: packing tape.

How:
1. Apply strips of packing tape to surface and rub it for maximum adherence.
2. Peel off the tape. Paint comes off with it!
3. Repeat where bits didn't come off.
4. Remove final bits using ....... (TBD)

I will post photos and video tomorrow. It's quite cool to see it come off so easily and the condition of the art underneath so vibrant and glossy compared to my previous JF cabinet.

Spyridon · « **Reply #49 on:** December 04, 2011, 03:52:30 pm »

Wow, 3+ years between posts and 6+ years since the thread started! Glad to see this is still in the works.

RayB · « **Reply #50 on:** December 08, 2011, 09:15:16 pm »

Juno #2, including an example of a quick "packing tape paint removal" test:

opt2not · « **Reply #51 on:** December 08, 2011, 10:06:09 pm »

Juno First, great game, and beautiful cabinet. Now that you have a new shell, hopefully this restore will pick up for you. Looking forward to how this turns out.

Spyridon · « **Reply #52 on:** December 11, 2011, 11:08:32 am »

Don't ruin a perfectly good Arkanoid!

I wouldn't worry about saving the art. Just strip and stencil.

RayB · « **Reply #53 on:** December 11, 2011, 02:54:51 pm »

Quote from: Spyridon on December 11, 2011, 11:08:32 am

Don't ruin a perfectly good Arkanoid!

I wouldn't worry about saving the art. Just strip and stencil.

Don't be silly.
Stencil: $80
Shipping $20?
3 colors of paint: $30-$50
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Total up to: $150

Stripping: < $10

Spyridon · « **Reply #54 on:** December 11, 2011, 07:34:25 pm »

Yeah, but stencils are fun!

ChadTower · « **Reply #55 on:** April 03, 2012, 12:19:15 pm »

Ray, did this progress? I'm interested to see if you ended up repainting this once you had the artwork exposed.

RayB · « **Reply #56 on:** April 08, 2012, 06:32:38 pm »

I'm a lazy @#$%^&

RayB · « **Reply #57 on:** August 11, 2013, 05:04:40 pm »

I have very little passion for this hobby any more. I got a lot more paint off the new project cab and am not interested in finishing the clean-up. The interior is stinky and not as clean as the first cab. So I am cutting my losses and donating cab #2 to whoever will take it (there's a guy here in Ottawa who has been looking for years for a Juno First).

I took a few parts the first was missing, like the Gottlieb coin door and back door mounting plate.

Here are photos:

nagamitsu · « **Reply #58 on:** August 13, 2013, 09:02:32 pm »

I'd take it if I can figure out how to get it to Cambridge!!

Tim

RayB · « **Reply #59 on:** August 20, 2013, 09:48:33 pm »

Project cab #2 is GONE!

RayB · « **Reply #60 on:** November 11, 2016, 03:01:22 pm »

THE END

Recently I finally convinced myself that enough was enough.
A. I have no time for projects
B. I have no time for the hobby in general
C. I need money.
D. I need space.

So, after 11 years and not completing this ---gosh-darn--- project, I have SOLD IT and all parts for it. It is today on its way across the border to a soon to be fan, an 11 year old who holds the Mad Planets high score record (Twin Galaxies verified and everything!).

I'll still get to play Juno First on my MAME machine (once I get it fixed!).
Next on the chopping block: Galaga and Ms PacMan.


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