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Super Ultra-Mega Massive 49-way Review online at Retroblast!
KenToad:
--- Quote from: timoe on June 29, 2005, 11:19:16 pm ---bottom line = thank you
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No, thank you ... for demanding that someone do the review.
I'm in review mode. I need something else to review. Somebody suggest something.
Cheers,
KenToad
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: KenToad on June 30, 2005, 10:21:45 am ---I'm in review mode. I need something else to review. Somebody suggest something.
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Wanna rewire your rotary adapter (maybe just the P2 if you have two of them) to the "extra" inputs on your GP-Wiz49 and test what games do and don't work with direct connection in MAME Analog Plus? (Just a thought!)
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: KenToad on June 30, 2005, 10:19:17 am ---Don't worry, Tiger-Heli, I would never ignore anything you've said. ;)
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It might not be a bad idea, at least sometimes ;)
--- Quote ---However, despite the fact that it's a review, I tried to be slightly unbiased, especially concerning this very issue with the 4-way mode, by giving a little how and a little why along with my opinions. Although I'm certain that this is how I want my four-way mode to behave, I really don't feel like I could be certain that it's how others want their 4-way mode.
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That's why you leave the IMO in there! ;D (And why you try to be extra careful to say that when something is opinion and leave it out when it's not).
--- Quote ---Another reviewer may have given a less positive review if all they wanted to do was play DK just how they remember it and they kept finding the diagonals.
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It may be kinda moot, though. Original DK used a restricted Wico 4-Way (or was it Monroe/Nintendo) leaf switch joystick, correct? So depending on how the leafs were set, you would either get a diagonal, dead spot, or one of the primary directions on a true diagonal and it would mess up anyway.
For example, I played a lot of original PacMan machines and I remember having the player go in uncommanded directions lots of times, but that has never been something I wanted to replicate with my arcade controls. ;)
markrvp:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 30, 2005, 10:41:35 am ---It may be kinda moot, though.
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RandyT:
First of all, I want to thank Ken for the outstanding work, although I'm not too keen on the editor's use of the word "co-dependent" in refering to these products. The GP-Wiz49 works quite well without extra interface boards or rotary adapters, thankyouverymuch :).
But I have to comment on something.
That is DonkeyKong. This was brought up as the "acid test" by someone who's name I am too lazy to dig up. To be honest, I'm not sure exactly why this is. Getting "stuck on ladders" may actually be a problem with a normal 8-way stick if you think you are pushing up, but are in reality at a diagonal. This is extremely unlikely to happen with the 4-way DRS mode as the only way you will be in a diagonal is if the stick is in one of the 4 out of 49 possible areas it is capable of resolving, and when you are there, you darn well know it! ;)
Getting "stuck" on a ladder is something that can happen with any stick, even the original one on the arcade machine. In fact, it was such a common occurance, it was mentioned in the old "How To Win at Video Games" books in the eighties!
Specifically, you must continue moving up until the Mario is standing there facing away from you with both hands at his sides. Only then can you move left or right. Any attempt to do so before he is in that position will result in being "stuck" because he is still on the ladder. As you can see, the joystick plays far less a role here than one's playing abilities.
Due to the long throw of the 49-way and the fact that it isn't necessary to travel anywhere near the end of it for the DRS modes to function well, it's very, very unlikely that you will hit that diagonal without having the actual intention of doing so. And in the case of DonkeyKong, rolling through it won't make even the tiniest bit of difference, so long as you are actually at the top of the ladder.
RandyT
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