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Tiger-Heli:

--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on June 15, 2005, 02:10:42 pm ---To counter Foleys, I'll announce my service... "fROM'sTM"  ;).  Priced at $0.98 to $9.98... :angel:

Just as legit as his "service".

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Doesn't someone already offer the service you are proposing, usually for the cost of the media and postage ?  <ducking and covering>
KevSteele:

--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 15, 2005, 02:25:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 15, 2005, 12:20:48 pm ---Unfortunately, if we boycott Foley, I can easily see the IP owners looking at the situation and saying "see, I told you no one would buy ROMs..."

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If the IP owners are (or become) convinced that no one will buy the ROMS, that would indicate the ROMS have no commercial value and make them less likely to hassle the MAME team about them, would it not, or am I being simplistic???

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I don't know - perhaps. But it's also possible that they see the interest in retrogaming, know their IP is being used but not purchased, and decide that the reason no one is buying the ROMs is because everyone is pirating them. They then decide to crack down on the pirating to increase sales of the ROMs.

I don't know how this is going to shake down, but it seems the industry is becoming more aware and interested in the MAME community, for better or worse...

Kevin
rackoon:
O.K, let me get all this speculation right.

First, Foley is going to contact folks like Namco and get the license to sell individual games for up to $10.00 on a irom like site.

Second, he my hold top titles for use on his over priced cabs only.

WHO, (I'm not being sarcastic) is he going to sell these iroms to? People who build their own cabs? Joe Smoe with a desk top computer? Small garage companies that build cabs?

I dont get it. The only people who would spend $10.00 on Asteroids
 is the custom cab building hobbyist like us.

Are there enough pre-made cabs being sold out there that this whole thing would be profitable.

And yes, I did read that he doesn't want to sell to us hobbyist ( I be live I heard him gnashing his teeth when I read that) I know, he wants to commercialize the industry.
Haze:

--- Quote from: rackoon on June 15, 2005, 03:10:38 pm ---First, Foley is going to contact folks like Namco and get the license to sell individual games for up to $10.00 on a irom like site.

Second, he my hold top titles for use on his over priced cabs only.

WHO, (I'm not being sarcastic) is he going to sell these iroms to? People who build their own cabs? Joe Smoe with a desk top computer? Small garage companies that build cabs?

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If thats what he wants to try then hes welcome to try, however given the shareware alternatives and the fact that most gamers are going to choose pretty graphics over classics I suspect he may struggle.

What Foley must determine is the true market value of these things to the average user, taking in to account their other (legal) options.  For the most part people want to play games because they're *fun* to play, Pacman being Pacman does not automatically make it more fun.

Foley is a businessman, and these are the simply basics of any business, if his service is to be successful he will have to negotiate a price he believes he will be able to sell at while still making a profit.  Looking at the poll on Retroblast this indicates under $1 per title.  http://www.retroblast.com/polls.php?poll_id=17  with things such as DRM no doubt devaluing the product even futher should that route be taken, even if I believe it to be doubtful.   I highly suspect that any attempt to charge more than that would result in a very low level of sales, people don't need to play games and given the choice between paying more, or not playing the game at all I suspect the majority of people would choose to not play the game, and instead seek an alternative updated version which they see as better value.

Emulation is not the enemy here, the fact that there are newer, better games retaining the same simple gameplay is.

Again, it remains to be seen, price something right and people will buy.  I just purchased a number of original CDs because they were
rackoon:
I agree,
    Foley is trippin. If he is lucky he might get a $1 a game. I'd give even more to k@ck him in the n@#$'s (sorry, I should hide my feelings.)
    I owned my own business ( a rather large business), and Its a brutal world {I finally gave up}. Foley is making a financial mistake that will haunt him for a long time). Hey, Good luck dude, (kiss of death) if you think that you can legitimize MAME for a reasonable price, GO FOR IT!

BETTER ADVICE, spend your hard earned money on stocks, bonds, and commodities. (better payout).
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