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| Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 11:16:12 am ---Come in to chat, I will discuss with you. Such as you don;t seem to understand the keyboard programming the ipac has. --- End quote --- Never been to Chat. I clicked Chatroom above and it gives me a screen that says "Enter Nick" (would that be yours or mine?) and regardless says "Could not establish connection to irc.scifi-fans.net on port 7,000" We can talk about the programming. --- Quote ---Something to discuss in chat, the EEPROM vs SDRAM is a big deal. You need the software for the keywiz in order to use it then. So if you use a linux boot cd you are screwed. --- End quote --- You need the software if you are not using the default codeset. MAME on Linux will work fine with it. If you want to play PC games on Linux with it, you might be better with another encoder, more due to the I-PAC having Linux programmable software than due to EEPROM. --- Quote ---That and the keyboard LEDs are the two reason enough I think one shouldn't get the keywiz. most people in this community are in this community to reproduce the arcade experience. Having blinking start buttons that work as they are suppose it part of that experience. --- End quote --- For about a dozen games. (Otherwise the lights on the KeyWiz work as they are supposed to, they aren't included and don't do anything). Don't get me wrong, I like the LED function, but this will all be moot when Buddabing's LED controller or RandyT's gets released. |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on June 13, 2005, 11:37:49 am --- --- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 11:16:12 am ---Come in to chat, I will discuss with you. Such as you don;t seem to understand the keyboard programming the ipac has. --- End quote --- Never been to Chat. I clicked Chatroom above and it gives me a screen that says "Enter Nick" (would that be yours or mine?) and regardless says "Could not establish connection to irc.scifi-fans.net on port 7,000" --- End quote --- Say something in the board discussion forum. Enter nikck is what nick you want to use. --- Quote ---We can talk about the programming. --- Quote ---Something to discuss in chat, the EEPROM vs SDRAM is a big deal. You need the software for the keywiz in order to use it then. So if you use a linux boot cd you are screwed. --- End quote --- You need the software if you are not using the default codeset. MAME on Linux will work fine with it. If you want to play PC games on Linux with it, you might be better with another encoder, more due to the I-PAC having Linux programmable software than due to EEPROM. --- End quote --- Depends on how you use it. Note i said live linux cd, hence you probably won't have the software on it. So being able to program the ipac without software is a must. --- Quote --- --- Quote ---That and the keyboard LEDs are the two reason enough I think one shouldn't get the keywiz. most people in this community are in this community to reproduce the arcade experience. Having blinking start buttons that work as they are suppose it part of that experience. --- End quote --- For about a dozen games. (Otherwise the lights on the KeyWiz work as they are supposed to, they aren't included and don't do anything). Don't get me wrong, I like the LED function, but this will all be moot when Buddabing's LED controller or RandyT's gets released. --- End quote --- Much more than a dozen. Practically all the atari games. It's a small percentage of mame, but a larger percentage of the games people actually play. Especially if all you play are the "classics". And no, it doesn't make it a moot point. With the ipac you get the functionality in one board, no two seperate purchases. Yes, however, with the led driver there is more flexibiility, but then you need software to actually use it correctly. Hence if you wanted to have it work with mame code changes to mame will need to take place. But like I said, there's a whole bunch of other issues with the rebuttal that would best be discussed in a one on one format. If you are using firefox use chatzilla to hook up with chat :) i t hought it was port 6667, so the java app is probably not configured correctly. |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 11:34:07 am --- --- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 11:29:51 am --- --- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 11:24:36 am ---there is a market. Why do you think Atari pulled all those roms from starroms? --- End quote --- Uhhh...because they weren't performing well in that venue?? --- End quote --- That's a relative terms. They weren't performing to Atari's standards henc ethem pulling them and trying to sell the gmaes themselves. They still think the games are sellable, so there is a market. --- End quote --- Why do I feel like I just told you that there's no Santa Claus. Look, if the titles were selling well in that very iROMS like service, they would still be there. They aren't, and that says something. This is part of the "perspective" I talked about. --- Quote ---Did I say anyhting about iROMS. I don't get your comment. I was saying it isn't in the bargin bin, and it hasn't been since it came out. Bargin bins are usually $10 or less and have there own spot in the store. So how does the iROMS statement relate to that??? --- End quote --- You took my comments out of context, I was just trying to put them back in. Regardless, you take a 15 game compilation at .25 per game, that's $3.75. A rational person could look at an 80 game compilation at that cost per title and come to the conclusion that it was released into the value bin. --- Quote ---Just becuase you don't strive for the experience doesn't mean others don't. So that makes your defender example very convenient. --- End quote --- My Defender never had blinky lights for start buttons, nor do a few thousand others. And the thought of you "striving" for the arcade experience in your apartment is bringing a tear to my eye (J/K, <elbow to the ribs> and all that stuff) RandyT *edit* spelling... |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 11:49:37 am ---Why do I feel like I just told you that there's no Santa Claus. Look, if the titles were selling well in that very iROMS like service, they would still be there. They aren't, and that says something. This is part pf the "perspective" I talked about. --- End quote --- Oh, I get it, you are confusing starroms with iROMs. I think starroms didn't take off because of poor marketting. They mainly just hit mame.net. --- Quote ---You took my comments out of context, I was just trying to put them back in. Regardless, you take a 15 game compilation at .25 per game, that's $3.75. A rational person could look at an 80 game compilation at that cost per title and come to the conclusion that it was released into the value bin. --- End quote --- However, most people won't think what a deal, 80 games for $20, so that's $0.25 per game. They will decide if they want to spend their $20 on that versus the $20 software next to it, so they will see it as one package. --- Quote ---And the thought of you "striving" for the arcade experience in your apartment is bringing a tear to my eye (J/K, <elbow to the ribs> and all that stuff) --- End quote --- I'm not the only one, that's my point. Most people here are building a cabinet because they want the arcade experience. Yes, your defender doesn't have blinking start buttons, but almost everything atari does. And that makes up a rather large percentage of the games in mame that are played. And my arcade experience is differnt than yours. I don't think crowded arcade with noisy people. I think 1 or 2 games in a restaurant. By me when growing up there wasn't an arcade in the area. And most of the good games are atari from that era. Just because you don't do something doesn't mean the rest of the community doesn't. |
| Tiger-Heli:
I don't think I have a chatzilla. Firefox doesn't want me to install it (to protect my computer). Not having much luck with this chat idea. |
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