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| IntruderAlert:
I don't see what you guys are arguing for. Foley wants to put an end to the BYO-ArcadeControls community Why else would he be pulling auctions for T-Mold and keyboard encoders and such? All off this stuff about the roms is just a smokescreen and a method of disrupting the spirit here |
| JoyMonkey:
I haven't followed this thread fully, and I'm not sure how it got onto LEDs, but I've always used KeyWiz's in the past and have been very happy with them. But, I just ordered a couple of IPacs for the sole reason that the IPac has a header for the 3 keyboard LEDs - 3 LEDs is all I need and I gladly paid $20 extra for an encoder that supports them. |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on June 13, 2005, 01:12:29 pm ---I think LEDs are important now. --- End quote --- That's fine. How do you have them implemented on your panel/cab? There can be some hefty costs associated with them, especially if you want those cone switches SirPoonga keeps referring to. If you want to re-create that "experience", you'll have a tough time of it. Aside from encoder support, to drive them properly, you'll need an LED driver board (if that design will even work on these, I'm assuming it does) as well as the buttons themselves. The driver board can be picked up at Gamecab for about $14.00 and that's a steal compared to what the buttons will cost you. They have been out of production for a very long time, so an old CP on eBay is just about the only source. The last one I saw went for ~$90 because it had 2 of them on it. Nifty, yes. Worth the price of admission for what they do? Not if you are talking about Atari cones switches. Just my opinion RandyT |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 12:56:47 pm ---I had a ColecoVision hacked into a home-built arcade cabinet with 2 real WICO leaf joysticks and leaf pushbuttons before there was even an Internet for you to log into. --- End quote --- That doesn't mean you were in THIS community then. You don't know my past either... My point was you make it sound like I don't know what I am talking about. I do. I talk with the people around here regularly. i know you do to which makes me wonder why your opinion varies so much. --- Quote --- --- Quote ---Who chats regularly with the people of this community in the chat room? --- End quote --- Every time I drop in, there's almost nobody (but you) in there. Either you are scaring them off, or this is more evidence of the niche market I spoke of. The forums are a better way to find info with less bias anyway. --- End quote --- Heh, you have pretty biased info, so how is that "less"? I hardly see you in the chat. Most of the people chat in the evenings. --- Quote --- --- Quote ---Who interacts with more people here? --- End quote --- I experience your "interaction" all the time. Don't think I would miss it (and I'm sure others will say the same of me :)) --- End quote --- My point was I have been in this community for a long time. and talk with many people regularly. Even outside of the forum. --- Quote --- --- Quote ---There's three types of gamers here, in general. There's those who play the classics (anything before 1990 basically), those who play early-mid 90s games, and those who play the more modern games. Most everyone in the classics section will want to replicate the blinking lights because most of the games in that era are atari. it's that simple. --- End quote --- When you are ready to back this up with some numbers, be sure to post back. By my count, the assertion you just made about pre-1990's games is bizarre at best. --- End quote --- Lest's see your count then? if you hung around in this community you'd get that feeling. If I can get HowardC in here he'd tell you the same thing. I belong to the classics group, he belongs to the early-mid 90s. This doesn;t mean that is the only game they play, just the majority. I do play some neogeo and modern vertical fighters once and while. But most of my gmaing is the classics like tempest, pacman, frogger, digdug, space duel, asteroids, etc... --- Quote ---While the LED start lights are a neat "doo-dad" they add nothing to the gameplay. If you are placing that much emphasis on them, you've probably lost sight of what you built your cabinet for. I hope you didn't spend $1000 to watch a button blink when you put a quarter in. --- End quote --- It does add to gameplay. it lets you know if you have credits and more than 1 if both players are blinking :) But it isn't always about the gameplay, that was the point. It's like if they comeout with identical PC lightguns, but one has recoil, which one do you think people will prefer? While recoil doesn't add to gameplay it adds to the experience. I am not putting emphasis on them. I did not say a cabinet HAS to have them. I am pointing out that your opinion that they don't enhance the arcade experience is wrong. I supported my view with fact. A large percentage of the pre 1990 games are atari. Most of those have LEDs. People seek the volcano buttons often around here. I could turn your statement around right back on you with all the emphasis you put on not having them. It's a difference in opinion. However I htink since it is a keyboard encoder it could do the keyboard LEDs. It will appeal more users to have the extra functionality. I didn't want to bring your products into this, I just wanted it a discussion about the ideas, but since you make a keyboard encoder... Now your point of not having them on the keywiz because they take up inputs is moot. Now that you have the stealth shift thing you still have more inputs than most people need. So what stops you from adding the support? We have opposite ideas. That's the problem between us. But as you see by other replies there are other people with simular opinions to me. i hope you see that and take advantage of it. But joyMonkey is right, we got off topic. i will stop at this. |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 01:28:58 pm ---There can be some hefty costs associated with them, especially if you want those cone switches SirPoonga keeps referring to. If you want to re-create that "experience", you'll have a tough time of it. --- End quote --- To you as the manufacturer or the user? For the user it doesn't cost that much. |
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