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| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 12:11:13 pm ---IMHO, based on the above comment, I'm thinking it might just be you who is in the minority ;) --- End quote --- Who's been in this community longer? Who chats regularly with the people of this community in the chat room? Who interacts with more people here? There's three types of gamers here, in general. There's those who play the classics (anything before 1990 basically), those who play early-mid 90s games, and those who play the more modern games. Most everyone in the classics section will want to replicate the blinking lights because most of the games in that era are atari. it's that simple. --- Quote ---Anyone even remotely involved in this hobby knows about StarROMS. Marketing isn't the problem. --- End quote --- Then why say that iROMs like service, why not call them by name? Again, they didn't sell because atari didn't think they were doing as good of a job as atari hoped for and decided to try it for themselves. That still proves my point they are markettable. --- Quote ---This affects the "end-price per title" how? Again, I think most people will do the math, just like if they were buying ketchup (provided it's the kind of ketchup they like) --- End quote --- It doesn't affect the end-price per game at all. It does affect the title. The title is something liek Atari Aniversity set. It's still one box, you can't buy them individually. So a person is going to compare if they want to get that versus another box that is $20. And $20 is not bargin bin. if they were selling each game individually for $0.25 in the bargin bin then it would be bargin bin. --- Quote ---Ahh, so really, you are "striving" more for a "restaurant with a couple of games" experience, rather than a true arcade one --- End quote --- Either way, since atari was very popular in the 80s reproducing the LEDs is a must in my book. It's part of the experience. Funny thing is I was talking to someone about their DigDug machine. i told him a year or so ago I found a bug in the LED handler for the mame driver. He told me DigDug didn;t have blinking lights. I asked if he had the volcano buttons on his cabinet. he said yes. I said check if they are hooked up correctly. Low and behold, he now has blinking lights :) Edit: proof people are looking for lighted start buttons. Look at the fact that people ask where to get volcanos quite often around here. |
| RayB:
Why isn't this thread locked yet? aaahhhhggg I just want to say that the only business model that would work is a virtual online arcade where you actually pay like a nickel or dime per game and then get a bill at the end of the month. You give the illusion of "cheap" but when you get addicted and play and play it adds up to nice profits. (only would work with the proven classics though). |
| RandyT:
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 12:20:50 pm --- --- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 12:11:13 pm ---IMHO, based on the above comment, I'm thinking it might just be you who is in the minority ;) --- End quote --- Who's been in this community longer? --- End quote --- Uh-oh, looks like we went over the "pull out the ruler" line. I had a ColecoVision hacked into a home-built arcade cabinet with 2 real WICO leaf joysticks and leaf pushbuttons before there was even an Internet for you to log into. Don't base the world on what you see on your monitor. --- Quote ---Who chats regularly with the people of this community in the chat room? --- End quote --- Every time I drop in, there's almost nobody (but you) in there. Either you are scaring them off, or this is more evidence of the niche market I spoke of. The forums are a better way to find info with less bias anyway. --- Quote ---Who interacts with more people here? --- End quote --- I experience your "interaction" all the time. Don't think I would miss it (and I'm sure others will say the same of me :)) --- Quote ---There's three types of gamers here, in general. There's those who play the classics (anything before 1990 basically), those who play early-mid 90s games, and those who play the more modern games. Most everyone in the classics section will want to replicate the blinking lights because most of the games in that era are atari. it's that simple. --- End quote --- When you are ready to back this up with some numbers, be sure to post back. By my count, the assertion you just made about pre-1990's games is bizarre at best. --- Quote ---Then why say that iROMs like service, why not call them by name? --- End quote --- Because they were the context of our discussion. I wasn't avoiding their name, and I know it well. --- Quote ---Again, they didn't sell because atari didn't think they were doing as good of a job as atari hoped for and decided to try it for themselves. That still proves my point they are markettable. --- End quote --- Yes, at 25 cents per title :) --- Quote ---Either way, since atari was very popular in the 80s reproducing the LEDs is a must in my book. It's part of the experience. Funny thing is I was talking to someone about their DigDug machine. i told him a year or so ago I found a bug in the LED handler for the mame driver. He told me DigDug didn;t have blinking lights. I asked if he had the volcano buttons on his cabinet. he said yes. I said check if they are hooked up correctly. Low and behold, he now has blinking lights :) --- End quote --- When LEDs become important, the KeyWiz will have very good support for them. Although this may be moot when the LED-Wiz and Budda's LED controller hit, depending on gl.tter's progress of course. While the LED start lights are a neat "doo-dad" they add nothing to the gameplay. If you are placing that much emphasis on them, you've probably lost sight of what you built your cabinet for. I hope you didn't spend $1000 to watch a button blink when you put a quarter in. RandyT |
| quarterback:
--- Quote from: RandyT on June 13, 2005, 12:56:47 pm --- --- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 13, 2005, 12:20:50 pm ---Who's been in this community longer? --- End quote --- Uh-oh, looks like we went over the "pull out the ruler" line. I had a ColecoVision hacked into a home-built arcade cabinet with 2 real WICO leaf joysticks and leaf pushbuttons before there was even an Internet for you to log into. --- End quote --- |
| ChadTower:
I think LEDs are important now. |
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