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MAMEDev's pull auctions without MAME
Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: pointdablame on June 09, 2005, 12:57:03 pm ---I doubt very highly that Joe Schmo is looking on eBay, randomly searches for a keyboard encoder, and then says "hey this MAME encoder rules, now I need to buy MAME brand buttons with a MAME cabinet and MAME coin door" If you are looking for them on eBay, you know what they are.
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lol.
MrTroy:
--- Quote ---(ie: selling a bean bag toy and adding "like Beanie Baby" to the title so you can grab searches for Beanie Baby.
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There's a big difference between "Like Beanie Baby" and "Beanie Baby". You have to be careful how you word it. It I see "Arcade Button" and "Arcade Button for Mame" and I'm building a PC for using MAME of course anyone who really doesn't know is going to say "This one with the Mame name in it is the one I want"
--- Quote ---I doubt very highly that Joe Schmo is looking on eBay, randomly searches for a keyboard encoder, and then says "hey this MAME encoder rules, now I need to buy MAME brand buttons with a MAME cabinet and MAME coin door" If you are looking for them on eBay, you know what they are.
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I disagree. I think the common idiot will fall for something like that. I know I have :-[
What's the point of having something trademarked if people are just going to use it for their own benifit and then argue with you on how you're wrong for doing so? MAMEDev is doing nothing wrong. If I were selling knockoffs of Super Nintendo. And Nintendo was turning a blind eye to it. Don't be an idiot and say "For use with Troy's Knock off of Nintendo's Super Nintendo". Screw that. You DON'T have to use the MAME name. It's been proven. If you can't sell your item without using the MAME name then that would imply that your item only works with MAME. Now everything I've seen here doesn't apply.
Heck there's a list of PC games that'll play better if you have keyboard encoders.
I mean come on look at this and seriously tell me there's nothing short of trying to profit off of the MAME name here.
I should be able to just go ahead and decive people and sell sneakers and say "Compatible with MAME". keyword spamming is just annoying. It sucks. It's like any form of spamming. And I darn sure wouldn't like someone saying "Sponsered by good 'ol Troy" if I don't want to.
The only thing I disagree with is the pulling of auctions without the MAME name in it. But I aint here to fight that fight. :(
Paul Olson:
--- Quote ---It I see "Arcade Button" and "Arcade Button for Mame" and I'm building a PC for using MAME of course anyone who really doesn't know is going to say "This one with the Mame name in it is the one I want"
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I'm exactly the opposite on things like this. If I see "MAME buttons", I assume (correctly most of the time) that they are low quality parts that the seller is trying to sell to people who do not know any better. I don't think I have ever done a search for "MAME". If I am looking for buttons, I search for "button" or "pushbutton" or "Happ". If I want an encoder, I go to ultimarc.com or maybe groovygamegear.com.
Paul
RayB:
--- Quote from: _Kid Kye_ on June 09, 2005, 02:18:56 pm ---There's a big difference between "Like Beanie Baby" and "Beanie Baby". You have to be careful how you word it.
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I disagree, and here is why: An Ebay title ony permits so many characters, so most of the time you need to drop non-keywords such as "Like", so that you can fit in keywords that matter. And this is where taking a shotgun approach at closing auctions is just so wrong, because you have to evaluate precisely what the person is really selling or implying.
I am curious if any listings got pulled that had nothing to do with MAME, such as MAME the musical, movie, recordings... MAME Maternity clothes, etc... (Mame is not as unique a word as many people think).
Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: RayB on June 10, 2005, 12:04:12 pm ---I am curious if any listings got pulled that had nothing to do with MAME, such as MAME the musical, movie, recordings... MAME Maternity clothes, etc... (Mame is not as unique a word as many people think).
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If they were in the arcade section of Ebay, yeah, they'd probably get pulled. Otherwise, no.
--- Quote from: RayB on June 10, 2005, 12:04:12 pm ---I disagree, and here is why: An Ebay title ony permits so many characters, so most of the time you need to drop non-keywords such as "Like", so that you can fit in keywords that matter. And this is where taking a shotgun approach at closing auctions is just so wrong, because you have to evaluate precisely what the person is really selling or implying.
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That's exactly why they don't want MAME in the title. Why should MAME be a keyword? The authors of the program and owners of the trademark don't want it to be used as such. They want "MAME" to be associated with the emulator, that's it. Not buttons, not encoders, not cabinets, just the emulator. That's how you are required to protect a trademark. If you don't protect it, you'll lose it. They're not demanding money from people or anything, they just want to be sure what is theirs stays theirs.