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Chris:


--- Quote from: saint on June 02, 2005, 07:52:49 pm ---For what it's worth, my being taken aback about the ROM DVD ads aside, I concur that MAME-DEV is being prudent in doing something about the situation. I think the restriction of the use of the word MAME in describing the capabilities of a cabinet is probably stricter than necessary, but if it's my family that's at risk as a MAME developer I'd probably be taking similar steps.


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The MAMEDev's families aren't at risk from a keyboard encoder... just their ideals.

CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 07:58:48 pm ---The MAMEDev's families aren't at risk from a keyboard encoder... just their ideals.

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I'm not so sure I would be so glib about the risk aspect ... we are talking about the United States of Litigation, aren't we ?

Even responding to a nuisance lawsuit would cost the families dearly in terms of $$$ and it's not like the MAMEdevs are being paid or anything. I'm sure that that we will all band together to fund the defense.  :-\

So, a thought back to you, Chris ... what would you do differently than the MAME team supposing that, say, you had received legal advice (which they apparently have) and a minimum legal response to a lawsuit was going to cost you personally, say, $5,000 (and would likely escalate steeply from there) ?

This is not a question about the merits of such a suit, but rather a question to quantify the degree of risk aversion that we each have.

Again, not trying to be a smart@$$, but asking an honest question.

I know I wouldn't risk my family's well-being (or even a four-figure hit to my bank account) for no $$$ and the grief that people continually give the MAMEdevs.

Cheers.


Chris:


--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on June 02, 2005, 08:09:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 07:58:48 pm ---The MAMEDev's families aren't at risk from a keyboard encoder... just their ideals.

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I'm not so sure I would be so glib about the risk aspect ... we are talking about the United States of Litigation, aren't we ?

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Nicola, the applicant of record, lives in Italy.

--- Quote ---Even responding to a nuisance lawsuit would cost the families dearly in terms of $$$ and it's not like the MAMEdevs are being paid or anything. I'm sure that that we will all band together to fund the defense.
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Dav:


--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on June 02, 2005, 07:47:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 07:33:15 pm ---Well, here's a thought, Jeffo:  Ford is the trademark owner of Ford.  MAMEDev is the trademark applicant for mame.  Applicant.  Not trademark holder.  And for that trademark to stick, it has to be used in commerce. So MAME had better get commercial if they want the trademark to stick.

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It is an interesting thought and a pretty darned good point (about the commerce aspect) ... now, I wonder how that would be possible, given the nature of the project ... any thoughts ?

Cheers.

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They already have gone commercial by giving permission for use in commercial products such as hanaho.  That is all that is necessary.





Dav:


--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 08:19:39 pm ---
--- Quote from: CheffoJeffo on June 02, 2005, 08:09:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 07:58:48 pm ---The MAMEDev's families aren't at risk from a keyboard encoder... just their ideals.

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I'm not so sure I would be so glib about the risk aspect ... we are talking about the United States of Litigation, aren't we ?

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Nicola, the applicant of record, lives in Italy.

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Maybe you've heard of Aaron, the current head of the project? 


--- Quote from: Chris on June 02, 2005, 08:19:39 pm ---
--- Quote ---Even responding to a nuisance lawsuit would cost the families dearly in terms of $$$ and it's not like the MAMEdevs are being paid or anything. I'm sure that that we will all band together to fund the defense.  :-\
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After this?  I think before this lots of people would have.  Now, maybe not so much.


--- Quote ---hought back to you, Chris ... what would you do differently than the MAME team supposing that, say, you had received legal advice (which they apparently have) and a minimum legal response to a lawsuit was going to cost you personally, say, $5,000 (and would likely escalate steeply from there) ?

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Aaron's resonse in the mame.net forum has nothing to do with legal fears and everything to do with "we're mad as hell and we're not gonna take it anymore."

Going after ROM sales?  Absolutely.  Going after cab sales?  Marginal, but I understand it.  Going after keyboard encoders?  Out and out abuse.


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The abuse is putting someone elses name on a product and selling it.  Mame keyboad encoder.  If someone put my name on a product for sale I'd be ticked too. 


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