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| Haze:
Ok.. this is quite simple. MAME is an emulator, nothing more, nothing less. Its the emulator that Nicola, Aaron, and others, including myself, helped to create. MAME is not a set of arcade buttons you want to sell MAME is not an arcade PCB MAME is not an arcade cabinet MAME is not a DVD full of ROMs MAME is a non-commercial project, worked on by the developers for free, it is not something designed to help anybody make money. There has been a large amount of abuse of MAME, especially people selling illegal items using the MAME name (such as ROM DVDs), The measures being taken may seem drastic but are neccessary. Simple approaches to stop people using the name have failed, its depressing to see that people even seem to have accepted that its acceptable to pay for DVDs full of 'MAME Roms' and such, some even openly encouraging people to order such. The MAME trademark usage terms and conditions were created to stamp out abuse of the MAME name, and as these things go we must enforce them. If you wish to use the MAME name then contact MameDev via the www.mamedev.com site, as mention in the email. |
| vibez:
--- Quote from: Haze on June 02, 2005, 04:55:27 pm ---Ok.. this is quite simple. MAME is an emulator, nothing more, nothing less. Its the emulator that Nicola, Aaron, and others, including myself, helped to create. MAME is not a set of arcade buttons you want to sell MAME is not an arcade PCB MAME is not an arcade cabinet MAME is not a DVD full of ROMs MAME is a non-commercial project, worked on by the developers for free, it is not something designed to help anybody make money. There has been a large amount of abuse of MAME, especially people selling illegal items using the MAME name (such as ROM DVDs), The measures being taken may seem drastic but are neccessary. Simple approaches to stop people using the name have failed, its depressing to see that people even seem to have accepted that its acceptable to pay for DVDs full of 'MAME Roms' and such, some even openly encouraging people to order such. The MAME trademark usage terms and conditions were created to stamp out abuse of the MAME name, and as these things go we must enforce them. If you wish to use the MAME name then contact MameDev via the www.mamedev.com site, as mention in the email. --- End quote --- makes sense to me. mame is the emulator. There are no such things as a mame cab or mame roms. i dont get the "but you may only mention it once in your ad." part |
| Dav:
--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 04:45:19 pm --- --- Quote from: SirPoonga on June 02, 2005, 04:22:13 pm ---They just don't want you using their name to sell your product. --- End quote --- I can see their side, to a point - but it was a pretty poor way of announcing their new rules, by pulling auctions first and then emailing companies with the "terms" of being able to use the word MAME. And just having the word MAME in the title shouldn't be legal grounds to pull an auction (especially if the trademark is acknowledged). The MAMEdevs will get to dictate the terms on eBay, but I think that "fair use" will rule in the real world(tm). In other words a title such as "Arcade Cabinet, Compatible with MAME(tm)" will be perfectly acceptable in any other situation, and well within the scope of the law. I agree with their letter except for two notable exceptions: 1. Not being able to use the word MAME anywhere in the title. 2. Only being able to use the word MAME once in the description. Both of these are against the spirit (and perhaps the letter) of fair use of trademarks. I'm beginning to wonder how the "Coke vs. Pepsi challenge" ever got on the air... Kevin --- End quote --- Mamedev.com was announced in several places as the official site, where it says "Products or services that wish to use the name MAME or a derivative thereof must obtain explicit permission from the trademark owner (Nicola) to do so in all cases" I will agree with you on the fair use thing. I'm suprised that they are limiting mame compatible, but I'm sure Aaron didn't just make this up out of thin air, he must have a lawyer who told him he could. |
| divemaster127:
I can agree with some of the letter, but still why not go after sites that offer free roms etc, what harm is being done to mame because some guy had the mame in the title of his auction selling a set of gas pedals, I go back to what I said earlier, if I have a Dell computer I cant use the word "Dell" I think this is wrong & the way its being done is wrong, I thought things were getting better since hopefully foley is out of the picture...selling a buttons, a encoder, a set of pedals is not abuse at all...& I think the dev gods have carried this to far... |
| monkeybomb:
--- Quote from: Haze on June 02, 2005, 04:55:27 pm ---There has been a large amount of abuse of MAME, especially people selling illegal items using the MAME name (such as ROM DVDs), The measures being taken may seem drastic but are neccessary. Simple approaches to stop people using the name have failed, its depressing to see that people even seem to have accepted that its acceptable to pay for DVDs full of 'MAME Roms' --- End quote --- Hi Haze it's great to see you on this board and I hope you return. Thank you so much for helping to bring such a fun part of my childhood back into my life. Unfortunately I have no way of accessing this whithout the method you described. Would you preffer that I and those like me leave the hobby all together. Are you sad to see me with an arcade cabinet with illegal ROMS. |
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