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spystyle:

Shape D.
You didn't read all that I wrote, we are talking about 2 different things.

I'm saying MAME dev's shouldn't say we can't tell people how to get ROMs.

I'm saying those instructions fall under freedom of speech.

I am completely cool with them copyriting the word MAME(tm) and still allowing us to use it only in a pareticular way.

You should read what I write before jumping on my case

This thread is full of people who shoot first and read posts later!

RayB:

Threads like this make baby jesus cry.  :'(



CheffoJeffo:


--- Quote from: spystyle on June 03, 2005, 03:05:49 pm ---Shape D.
You didn't read all that I wrote, we are talking about 2 different things.

I'm saying MAME dev's shouldn't say we can't tell people how to get ROMs.

I'm saying those instructions fall under freedom of speech.

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Uh, spystyle, I think maybe we have a Pot .. Kettle .. Black situation here -- it doesn't look like you read the whole note from the MAMEdevs, but rather picked one line in isolation.

The MAMEdevs are saying that you can't tell people how to get illegal ROMs IF you want to use the term MAME in your auction.

They're not curtailing your rights, they're limiting your use of the term MAME. If you want to post an auction telling the world how to get ROMs, they are saying that you don't have permission to use the term MAME.

Cheers.


EDIT: And, as others will doubtlessly point out, eBay doesn't have to allow that auction if they don't want to, just like the New York Times doesn't have to print an article you write on the subject.

Shape D.:


--- Quote from: spystyle on June 03, 2005, 03:05:49 pm ---
You should read what I write before jumping on my case

This thread is full of people who shoot first and read posts later!

--- End quote ---
I actually did, thats what I was trying to point out in the first two sentences. my point is they have the right as the creators of the software (MAME) and the buisness holding the auctions (ebay) To limit how thier product is being sold, and displayed. including when people are selling things and including information for their customers how to get "MAME roms" (wich are really just roms anyways. They do not want to be associated with illegal ties to piracy and are covering thier own hinds. yes by freedom of speach you can tell people where to get roms. but If ebay doesn't want to be a part of it they don't have to allow you to inform people on thier site. just like if you told people here where to get roms saint or another mod would delete your instructions.

Setabs:


--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 02:03:17 pm ---
6. You must not include any unlicensed game software (ROMs or CHDs) or artwork with your product. Furthermore, you must not provide information to those who purchase your product concerning where to obtain unlicensed game software.

7. You must not mislead the buyer with pictures or lists of games that do not come included with your product. Any games or pictures you use must refer to properly-licensed games that are included with the purchased product.

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I don't see how this guidline has anything to do with MAME(tm).  Mainly the artwork seeing how they covered mame art work earlier.

 Is it really their responsibilty about the buyer being misleading w/ pictures and game lists.  Shouldn't that be an issue between the buyer and seller?

Just search for MAM3 next time.

Freedom of speech has nothing to do with e-bay.  It is a private buisness that can censor speach.  If they wanted to they could randomly pull auctions off for no reason, its their site.  I do think they give to much to the IP owners without hearing both sides.

I think the "compatible with MAME" should be aloud in titles.  I completely understand the "mame cabinet" problem.

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