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Haze:

--- Quote from: paigeoliver on June 03, 2005, 02:21:18 am ---Ah, but there is the trick, there is no such thing as a legal Zola board to begin with.

Here is an example, lets say I happen to have a bootleg copy of "The Phantom Menace" on a VCD, copied with a video camera in a movie theatre in a foreign country. I can buy 100 Phantom Menace DVDs, I can even stand in front of my own TV with a camera and make a "fair use" copy that way, but nothing I am going to do is going to validate that asian bootleg VCD.

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All MAME is saying in these cases is 'we acknowledge that these bootlegs existed, the bootleggers made these hardware changes, this is how it worked'   Then if somebody comes along thinking 'i'm sure I saw a Bagman on Moon Cresta Hardware before' and looks in MAME they'll be able to see that yes, infact one did exist.  MAME is a document, acknowledging something exists doesn't make it illegal, and hardcoded CRC lists can help anybody who may have a non-working board identify what it actually is, and thus determine if they actually own a legal board.  Do you think anybody would actually want to *play* those bootlegs?

You're seeing things far too much from a gamers point of view, which is one of the problems we're having.

And no, we don't care about popularity, I don't think anybody on the dev team would care if everybody started using vantage to play their games, or raine, or anything else providing they left us alone to develop.
paigeoliver:
Actually I am far more of a collector than a gamer. I have around 100 boardsets, have owned several hundred more, and have owned over 100 dedicated games.
Dexter:
Is it really going to be THAT much hassle to liaise as a community with the mamedevs on this? Why don't we let the dust settle and discuss a proper fair-use policy.

There is SURELY a compromise that can be reached between a non-profit making project for the mamedevs and a hobbyist community such as BYOAC + emulation scene in general. Nobodys stealing the bread out of anyones mouths here and I'd imagine they can understand our passion for retrogaming given their involvement with Mame.

We all ultimately want the same things guys. Lets put our heads together and see if theres a way to weed out the major copyright infringers/profiteers from the hobbyists.

Dexter
Chris:

--- Quote from: Dexter on June 03, 2005, 08:13:05 am ---We all ultimately want the same things guys.
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No, we don't.  They want to document games; we want to play them in an arcade style environment.  They don't care about our community; they don't even like our community, because it makes them look bad.  They've said numerous times that MAME isn't meant for playing games, it's only a side effect of the documentation process.  This is, I believe, the crux of Aaron's posturing: "You don't share our ideals, so we're going to make life hard for you."
Dexter:

--- Quote from: Chris on June 03, 2005, 09:41:12 am ---No, we don't.
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