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PaulG:
SECOND EDIT:

Okay.  So I started playing around with the second joystick and aside from the fact these are supposed to be NOS and it has 1 cherry switch and 3 red and white micros, the WHITE PLASTIC CONE ON THIS JOYSTICK IS SIGNIFICANTLY BIGGER.  That would explain why the 1st one is fundamentally garbage.  I'm still disappointed some by the performance and am wondering this:  In a game like Robotron, is it unrealistic to expect that if a rotate the joystick in 360 degree circles that I'd fire shots in smooth 360 degree blasts.  When rotating fluidly, I'm routinely skip directions.

Orginial POST:

These are rubber grommets and I always assumed the spring replacement was referring to the spring-based Wicos.

Anyways, even though it was a pain because my T-Stick Plus's have different mounting holes (Was gonna redo the entire CP), I mounted the joystick in a different location and either there is something wrong with assembly (Paige, help), or these are Chinese knockoffs that even the Chinese would shun.

Playing Robotron is like playing with 4 ways.  Unless I really slam down in a diagnol, there's zero action happening there.  And even just regular directions, the joystick slides really nice, but to get it to contact with the microswitches, there's a hiccup or jerk (Like cheap Chinese parts are shifting inside) before sliding all the way to contact with the microswitches.

P.S.  One HUGE other thing, I noticed on the Happ website and with my T-Stik Pluses, there are large prongs(?) that are connected to the micro switch, which then make contact with the joystick actuator (?) and they trigger the cherry switch.  With these, it's just a regular pushbutton micro switch where the plastic cone has to trigger the little button itself (Without the long prongs seen on almost everything else).  Don't all joysticks have special micro switches they use?  It seems things would work infinetly better with them.  And, no, I don't believe swapping my T-Stick micros would work because the plastic cone would be too big with these.

Edit:  Grasshopper:  Just looked at the competitions.  They are similiar.  Are Competitions the ones people hate?  If so, I understand why (Although nothing could be as bad as what I'm getting right now.)
Zakk:
A microswitch version is not the real way to judge a WICO.  If you wanted a microswitch stick, you should have got yourself a Happ-Super (the best microswitch stick out there in my very humble opinion).  If you want to see how robotron really is supposed to feel, you're going to need to find some true Wico 8-way leafswitch sticks. 

As an aside, it looks like you might have gotton some mix and match parts on those sticks.  The square actuator that came with one probably IS from a Happ stick!  :o

markrvp:
For Robotron, you really need Wico LEAFSWITCH joysticks.  I am speaking from experience.  My 4 player panel uses Happ Competition sticks which are very similar to the Wicos you got (except they use a spring instead of a grommet).  Playing Robotron sucks.

I found and purchased some Wico 8-WAY LEAFSWITCH joysticks and Robotron now plays incredible.

Sorry you got the wrong sticks. 
Timoe:
^ where can I *buy* an Averagecade?
markrvp:

--- Quote from: timoe on May 29, 2005, 04:11:40 pm ---^ where can I *buy* an Averagecade?

--- End quote ---

You can't BUY one, but they are pretty easy to make.  A lot of people have by accident.
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