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RandyT:


--- Quote from: mattp on June 03, 2005, 03:54:10 am ---To answer Randy-Helis question, yes the design approach can be referred as a 2x8 matrix.

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That's not what you said before.  Care to reveal why?


--- Quote ---Your own comments regarding the validity of a matrix implementation that ten billion keyboards across the planet employ followed by open speculation are without merit.

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I don't know how to interpret this.  Simple question:  Are you or are you not employing "blocking" or a form of "blocking" as a means of preventing the phantom keystroke condition?


--- Quote ---Passthrough was and is a challenge. TOKN stepped up to that challenge. You side stepped that challenge and threw in a toggle switch as a band-aid.

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Nice try.  I looked at a feature that used up 2 precious inputs on a microcontroller and made a conscious decision not to devote them to it.  With a little planning, the KeyWiz can support a workable 4 player control panel.  Had I given up 2 of the inputs for a feature that I considered to have less merit, this would not have been possible.  The switch also keeps your drunken buddies from messing up your game by bashing on the keyboard when you are trying to play :)

Fun Fact:  We sell more KeyWiz Ecos than any of of our other products and we sell plenty. The Eco version has absolutely no pass-through provisions whatsoever. 

There goes your theory. ;)

RandyT


mattp:


--- Quote from: RandyT on June 03, 2005, 09:27:28 am ---
--- Quote from: mattp on June 03, 2005, 03:54:10 am ---To answer Randy-Helis question, yes the design approach can be referred as a 2x8 matrix.

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That's not what you said before.
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Tiger-Heli:


--- Quote from: mattp on June 04, 2005, 08:53:27 am ---Saint,
This group of threads was launched by a registered user of
your forum with the primary intent of denigrating a competitor's
product. This type of sleaze marketing is common and unfortunately
a gross misuse of public domain.

See this link to an internet marketing newletter that summarizes these
practices. http://www.apexpacific.com/newsletters/nl2004apr.html

I'll close by stating that I'm leaving
it up to the mediator of this forum and those involved
to examine the user profile registation dates and thread contents
for signs of this type of abuse.

Thank you and best regards,
Mattp
Tokn Media

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Da#n, have to retype several thread replies.

Mattp - sorry if you consider factual information to be denigrating your product and if BYOAC members don't share your love for it.

Tiger-Heli:

Lots of this got lost and probably not worth responding to, but - - -

--- Quote ---You can do this if you already own a keyboard that supports USB and PS2.
I don't think you can do this with a PS2 only keyboard.

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It's actually a PC-AT keyboard with an adapter to go to mini-DIN and then an adapter to go to USB.

Details here - http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,35840.0.html

And as stated, I could have used a new USB keyboard for $10.

--- Quote ---TOKN KB16's on the fly programming via the keyboard passthrough
works independent of the OS. You can be in Windows, Unix, or DOS
and still use your game console and keyboard at the same time and
reprogram buttons with a simple keypress.

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As long as you don't mind re-programming every input whenever you switch applications and switch back

Tiger-Heli:


--- Quote from: KevSteele on June 02, 2005, 09:12:10 pm ---I still like the nonvolatile memory, though - program it once, and use it anywhere (very handy if you're building a portable control panel, ala X-Arcade or HotRod) You can obviously work around not having NV memory if you're building a dedicated cab, of course!

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I like it, but it's over-rated.  The KeyWiz default set is MAME-compatible, and I can use my KeyWiz controlled CP in MAME on any computer with no re-configuration.  Now if I wanted to play the same PC game on multiple computers without re-configuration, different story, but this will be a very small market segment.

--- Quote ---It's nice that we have a variety of encoders to choose from. (Heck, there's even an encoder with a PC watchdog circuit that reboots the computer if it crashes!)

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Which one? - Serious Question

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