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TOKN KB16 ENCODERS
markrvp:
I think one of the smartest moves you could make in this hobby is to heed the advice of Tiger-Heli. I tried to match wits with him one time and got my "wits" handed to me. He really knows his stuff, has been a great mentor to many on these boards, and is very helpful and honest about his opinions on all products. Anyone who slams Tiger-Heli goes straight to the top of my S%*T list.
Ebay is not the best place to judge a product's worthiness. I have seen I-pacs go for over their retail price on Ebay. People who don't know better will buy whatever they see listed. If the Tokn encoder is the only one you ever used, then you would probably give it good feedback. Feedback is based more on a seller's ability to deliver a product as advertised than an endorsement of a particular product. When the Tokn encoder is praised by people who actually have cabinets presented on this board, then I'll take a look at it. However, right now we already have two manufacturer's lines of products with more features backed by great customer support.
A money back guarantee is great, but if my choice is a working encoder or a refund, I'll choose an encoder I know that works.
And just in case anyone questions whether or not I know enough about these products to comment, I have an I-pac 4, Minipac, GP-Wiz 32, and GP-Wiz 49. I've tried products based on the product, and not the seller, so I'm always looking for the best product.
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Tiger-Heli:
Thanks all for the vote of confidence!!!
--- Quote from: mattp on May 30, 2005, 09:24:23 pm ---Be aware of slanted emails and postings from competitors, especially ones that contain Tiger in their name.
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MattP is no doubt referrring to my comments in this thread, which he doesn't want you to read:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,37064.0.html
I just want to point out that I am not a competitor. I wrote a web page reviewing different encoder options, was sent the info on the Tokn16 to include (and am in the process of doing so), and apparently Mattp doesn't like my conclusions, but they would have been the same with or without his prior contact.
The TOKN16 isn't a horrible product, but it is more expensive than the KeyWiz ECO for half the number of inputs, no shifted inputs, not programmable from software, etc.
Buddabing:
--- Quote from: tonyarcade on May 25, 2005, 11:23:42 am ---Can anyone speak to these??
They are on Ebay for virtually nothing and promise easy installation.
Are they easy to use, dependable? A good cheap option???
Thanks
Tony
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Seems to me that this encoder would be ideal for a hot-swappable panel application. If you can get them for $20 shipped on Ebay, you could put one in each panel and you could swap them seamlessly with only a PS/2 cable connecting the panel to the PC.
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Buddabing on May 31, 2005, 09:32:10 am ---Seems to me that this encoder would be ideal for a hot-swappable panel application. If you can get them for $20 shipped on Ebay, you could put one in each panel and you could swap them seamlessly with only a PS/2 cable connecting the panel to the PC.
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As long as you can get by with only 16 inputs per panel. However, a better option for this is probably the GP-Wiz, as this is USB so is designed for hot-swapping, 32 inputs, and multiple boards can be used together without custom programming (of the boards).
Bloinkxp:
The review on retroblast.com is up.
http://www.retroblast.com/reviews/tokn16.html
Kevin rules (imho of course).
-b