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Bones:

For the record I think the search function works fine. Sure you have to invest some time, but the answers to almost everything are there if the time is taken to look.

However, this is a dynamic hobby and things do change so asking for help can sometimes bring a better solution/answer than what can be found in older threads.

Everyone should also try and remember the "excitement" days when this was all absolutely new and to be honest, a little overwhelming. You can hardly blame the newbie for asking some silly stuff in the heat of their enthusiasm.

APFelon:


--- Quote from: pointdablame on May 15, 2005, 01:39:56 am ---

If these people are too lazy/blind/illiterate/ignorant to click on that post and do a bit of reading and research for themselves, why should we have to answer the same questions over and over again.

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Because the Internet is full of lazy/blind/illiterate/ignorant people. This forum is no exception. And it ain't just newbies.

Does a math teacher get angry with his new students for not knowing the things he taught his class from the previous semester?

For those of us who have been on this forum for a while, it's easy to see a progression of sorts as we learn new things.

Just think of the newbie as you were. Their point of reference is just like yours when you got in to the hobby. They haven't seen the progression on this forum and haven't seen arcade emulation evolve as we have.

So have some empathy and attempt to see this hobby through the eyes of a new guy.

APf



DrewKaree:


--- Quote from: SOAPboy on May 14, 2005, 10:51:36 pm ---
Search, SUCKS, i tried it.. and ive had none of my questions answered by it


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There you go guys.  He's tried it, it didn't work for him, therefore it sucks.  Case closed. 

Talk about an elitist attitude!  Here, Mr Search Sucks:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=search2

Several replies, including one specifically titled "Killer Instinct Requirements", and I'm sure I could find at least one reply for all the stuff you claim "can't be answered" here.  Just because YOU can't figure it out, doesn't mean something sucks, doesn't mean the search is broke, and more likely, points to someone who wants spoon-feeding.  There's nothing wrong with spoon-feeding someone answers - if they've taken even a cursory look around and don't know where to look.  We'd point them to the search and some pointers for searching.  There are thread-upon-thread's to this around here, and I'm 100% positive that even in the forums you help run, these types of responses are posted there as well. 

The search works.  Period.  Put some time into thinking about what you want to know, and maybe you'll find your results.  You not being able to figure it out makes me chuckle to myself, because all your answers seem to be the "Here's how I do it" route, and yet in 5 seconds, I was able to get answers using the search that you state unequivocally SUCKS!  Maybe PEBKAC is rearing it's ugly head in your instance, but seeing common questions that have ambiguous answers such as this thread's title REQUIRE a "search" answer, because the people that don't know won't get answers from people OTHER than what's already out there, and would have found if they'd simply used the sucky search.

Telling a new guy to search for an answer IS considered "helping a new guy", because they just may have never seen it, or would PREFER to see several pages in an old thread telling them exactly what they need, instead of creating several NEW pages that still do the exact same thing - nothing.

As for the math teacher, what would he do?  He'd walk the person through the problem (point them to the search (memory recall) function).  If, after several weeks, the teacher finds the student continuing to miss the problem, he'd question if they actually knew the concepts (whether or not they actually searched the forum) and perhaps drop them to an easier or different class (request that they read a few threads from those searches).

Nobody was being pissy, Soaper, until you started calling people ---Deutsche Frankfurters--- and elitists.  Perhaps you taking this thread the wrong way might lead you to an understanding of how people feel after seeing the same threads and questions over and over, but you'll have to get over your attitude that we're all ---Deutsche Frankfurters--- and elitists, and you seem to have that opinion of some of us pretty well set in stone.  Sitting here calling people ---Deutsche Frankfurters--- and elitists tells me you're full of crap when you say you did something out of fear of pissing people off in here.  Your eyes have filled up and your hair is starting to turn brown you're so full of it.

Lastly, if you can't understand the joke of the thread, maybe you should stay out of it and not comment on it, since "not helping" doesn't apply to you.

APFelon:


--- Quote from: DrewKaree on May 15, 2005, 11:59:26 am ---

As for the math teacher, what would he do?  He'd walk the person through the problem (point them to the search (memory recall) function).  If, after several weeks, the teacher finds the student continuing to miss the problem, he'd question if they actually knew the concepts (whether or not they actually searched the forum) and perhaps drop them to an easier or different class (request that they read a few threads from those searches).


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I don't think you understood my analogy.

And you WAY over reacted to Soapboy. Aside from his aggressive post, he has a very valid point. Perhaps you should pay attention to what he is saying, not how he says it.

But hey, what do I know.

APf





ray_slup:

We need a newbie sub forum, of course newbie probably wouldn't post in the right forum ;)
I think the best solution would be to not answer (or even read) the post if your sick of dealing with it. Someone else will answer it that has not tired of the question. Who knows maybe not answering right away will give the newbie time to search and find the answer themselves. ::)
By the way shouldn't the word ---Deutsche Frankfurters--- be auto censored?  :D

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