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SirPeale:
--- Quote from: JB on April 30, 2005, 08:07:36 pm ---"They also claim that the chlorine atoms in Splenda are altered and therefore safe, yet it's known that any animal that eats chlorine (especially on a regular basis) is at risk of cancer."
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Sodium chloride, chemical symbol NaCL, common name table salt. Contains chlorine, required for life.
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Which I guess makes it true. Any animal that ingests chlorine compounds is at risk of cancer because if they don't eat them, they die.
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Spoken like someone who doesn't understand exactly how it works.
Our bodies require salt (NaCl) this is true. It's a naturally occuring compound, and the chlorine atoms are bound completely to the sodium atom.
Sucralose, OTOH is regular table sugar that has been bombarded with a special chlorine ion. Sometimes, not all the ions bond with the sugar molecule. So not only are you ingesting chlorine, you have a lovely free radical in your system, wreaking all kinds of havoc on it's way out.
JB:
--- Quote from: Peale on April 30, 2005, 10:26:47 pm ---
--- Quote from: JB on April 30, 2005, 08:07:36 pm ---"They also claim that the chlorine atoms in Splenda are altered and therefore safe, yet it's known that any animal that eats chlorine (especially on a regular basis) is at risk of cancer."
BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Sodium chloride, chemical symbol NaCL, common name table salt. Contains chlorine, required for life.
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Which I guess makes it true. Any animal that ingests chlorine compounds is at risk of cancer because if they don't eat them, they die.
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Spoken like someone who doesn't understand exactly how it works.
Our bodies require salt (NaCl) this is true. It's a naturally occuring compound, and the chlorine atoms are bound completely to the sodium atom.
Sucralose, OTOH is regular table sugar that has been bombarded with a special chlorine ion. Sometimes, not all the ions bond with the sugar molecule. So not only are you ingesting chlorine, you have a lovely free radical in your system, wreaking all kinds of havoc on it's way out.
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That wasn't mentioned in the text. The only chlorine mentioned is the ones that are substituted into the sucrose molecule.
This lends the quoted portion of text the implication that ingesting all chlorine-bearing molecules is bad for you.
And our bodies break the salt apart into the sodium and chloride ions when the salt is used. The main use of chloride is to make the hydrochloric acid(ANOTHER dangerous chemical) used in our stomachs, though it is also important to proper functioning of the nervous system.
I DO, however, acknowledge that just because something is used inside the body does not mean it can be safely eaten or breathed.
Chlorine is, of course, a toxic gas in it's natural state.
And sodium, while vital to nerve functionality, is only mildly less hazardous in it's natural state.
Interestingly enough, both elements are only useful to biological processes in their ionized forms(positive charge on the sodium atoms, negative on the chlorine ones).
And it's worth noting... Chlorine ions aren't free radicals.
Free radicals are higly-reactive, but uncharged. Ions are charged.
A non-ionized chlorine atom would be a free radical, but we're discussing ions here.
Some free radicals are also incredibly important compounds to life, despite the damage they can do to the body.
FractalWalk:
--- Quote from: Zakk on April 30, 2005, 08:56:26 pm --- I've kept a 32" waist for at least 10 years now.
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I remember a 32" waist. I believe Quayle was a senator.
SirPeale:
--- Quote from: JB on May 01, 2005, 12:56:39 am ---That wasn't mentioned in the text. The only chlorine mentioned is the ones that are substituted into the sucrose molecule.
This lends the quoted portion of text the implication that ingesting all chlorine-bearing molecules is bad for you.
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You're right, I was wrong in my assumption that it was a chlorine ion. It *is* a chlorine atom.
--- Quote ---And our bodies break the salt apart into the sodium and chloride ions when the salt is used. The main use of chloride is to make the hydrochloric acid(ANOTHER dangerous chemical) used in our stomachs, though it is also important to proper functioning of the nervous system.
I DO, however, acknowledge that just because something is used inside the body does not mean it can be safely eaten or breathed.
Chlorine is, of course, a toxic gas in it's natural state.
And sodium, while vital to nerve functionality, is only mildly less hazardous in it's natural state.
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Sodium is fun. Ever toss it in water? ;)
--- Quote ---Interestingly enough, both elements are only useful to biological processes in their ionized forms(positive charge on the sodium atoms, negative on the chlorine ones).
And it's worth noting... Chlorine ions aren't free radicals.
Free radicals are higly-reactive, but uncharged. Ions are charged.
A non-ionized chlorine atom would be a free radical, but we're discussing ions here.
Some free radicals are also incredibly important compounds to life, despite the damage they can do to the body.
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As noted above. A good example of this would be oxygen. But since not all the chlorine attaches to the sugar molecule (at least in some forms of manufacturing, there are two different methods) those atoms of chlorine can be present in their 'non-attached' form.
Another site, although sponsored by the Sugar Association, has more information than the site I referenced above.
http://www.truthaboutsplenda.com/
I have a severe reaction to sucralose. It's the only thing that people actually eat that I've *ever* had a reaction to. I hesitate to call it an allergy, because I believe that putting something in your body (ie poison) that doesn't belong there technically isn't an allergen.
DrewKaree:
I thought you told us that you also have a reaction to milk.
When/why did they change the formula for Diet Pepsi?
Vanilla Coke is my drink, so I really have no interest in trying the new Diet Pepsi. Diet Dr Pepper is the only diet soda I can stomach.