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shmokes:
Maybe not in your hives.....
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shmokes:
Oh, and by the way Peale, good luck. I'd wager that you will be the healthier for it. Not to mention that the environment and the animals will benefit from the decreased demand.
And on the ethical front, I wouldn't worry. I had this brilliant idea one day and I'm sure I'm not the only person who has thought of it. A few years ago I was reading about these teenagers who fell in a geyser or boiling mud pit or something in Yellowstone National Park. Well some died and the ones who lived had third degree burns over like 95% of their bodies. They were life-flighted to a hospital and stabilized and had temporary skin grafts done until samples of their own skin could be flown somewhere that specialized in growing living tissue like Johns Hopkins or something after which they would get skin grafts with the right stuff all over their bodies.
It got me thinking. This is probably super expensive and difficult to do right now, but just like everything else it will eventually be inexpensive and have a very high success rate as technology gets better and economies of scales are introduced. If we can just grow human skin in a petri dish, why not cow hide, or a ribeye steak for that matter. I predict that in our lifetime you will be able to buy a genuine leather jacket that was never attached to a living being. You'll be able to eat cow liver that was never inside a cow. It would probably be safer too, cos there wouldn't be any of these pesky things like Mad Cow disease. I ought to patent the idea rather than posting it to public message boards, I suppose.
Of course this is just a stop-gap measure until we can build whatever we want atom-by-atom :)
SirPeale:
--- Quote from: shmokes on April 21, 2005, 02:16:14 pm ---And I'm not entirely sure that the somatic cell content is actually alarming. Somatic cells are perfectly normal in all milk, including human breast milk. Apparently the limit is 750 million cells per liter and the average seems to be about 350-400 million but that doesn't mean much to me as I don't know what actual percentage of the milk that is and I can't find anything that tells me. At any rate, PETA knows full-well that somatic cells are not pus. There also seems to be no evidence that somatic cells are harmful.
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Well, I can say this: those cells can produce a immune response, due to being foreign cellular matter. It can produce intestinal bleeding and violent reactions in severe cases. In my sons case, it wasn't that severe, but he had violent diarrhea and a runny nose until we removed milk from his diet. I know when I drink milk I don't feel well (though I can eat cheese okay, go figure).
shmokes:
Well, carrots are foreign cellular matter aren't they?
At any rate, is your son simply lactose intolerant? If so it is the lactate, IIRC, rather than the white blood cells that would be causing that reaction.
I'm under the impression that, according to the FDA, ingesting somatic cells poses no risk whatsoever.
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: Peale on April 21, 2005, 04:54:31 pm ---he had violent diarrhea and a runny nose until we removed milk from his diet.
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Before I added milk to my diet I had passive diarrhea.