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JackTucky:
Go for the vegetarian, leave the PETA people behind. Political groups like PETA give crazy a bad name.
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SirPeale:
--- Quote from: JackTucky on April 21, 2005, 12:40:17 pm ---Go for the vegetarian, leave the PETA people behind. Political groups like PETA give crazy a bad name.
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It's not all bad. You've got your radicals in any group. I believe in a lot of their ideals, but can leave the crazies behind.
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: DaemonCollector on April 21, 2005, 01:05:02 am ---I offer you one thing...the lyrics to one of my favorite songs...
--- Quote ---I'd eat people if it was legal!
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Vegetarians taste better, but you need to cook them longer for health reasons.
missioncontrol:
lol this was funny...........
First off English is not my wifes native language......
We were in the car a few weeks ago and we started talking about the Terry Shaivo ordeal......
Well she looked at me and said "If I ever become a vegetarian I don't want to live"
I just started laughing at her then she realized what she said........
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shmokes:
I am at least as concerned with the environmental impact of consuming meat as the inhumane conditions the animals are subjected to. Grazing reeks havoc on land and the big cattle and pig farms literally create mountains of steaming feces with no good way to dispose of it.
As far as whether we were "meant" to eat meat or not seems like a stupid way to decide. We were clearly not meant to wear shoes, but I'm not going to walk around the city without shoes. I think one should consume as little animal product as possible, but I define possible pretty losely. For example, I could not give up cheese. It's too tasty. So that's just not possible. But I eat very little meat - almost never beef.
This is mostly due to health choices and preferences. Ethics play a role, but a person who is a hardcore vegetarian for moral reasons is necessarily a hypocrit because that person is still wearing leather shoes and drinking milk and eating eggs and cheese, etc. -- all of which involve the slaughering and/or horrible living conditions for animals that apply to the creatures that go into our tummies.
If you're going to go hardcore ethical you gotta go vegan.
Anyway, anyone not eating meats should really read up on combinations of vegetables that will give you complete proteins. Animal products are almost the only single food sources that deliver complete proteins (there are a couple of beans that will, I think). Different veggies have different partial protiens that can be combined to make complete ones. But you need to eat the foods together, or within a short time-frame, in order for your body to break them down and combine the partial protiens. If you do this you will get absolutely everything good, nutrition-wise, that meat has to offer, without all the bad stuff. If you don't, your health will likely suffer.
Oh yeah....and don't use vegetable-based butter substitute, like margarine. Hydrogenated vegetable oils are filled with little assassins called trans fatty acids that are WAY worse than anything in butter. Lots of products contain it. Anything creamy that has no animal products, such as peanut butter (get the stuff with the oil on top that has to be mixed in -- it tastes much better anyway).