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Mixing Acetone with gasoline for better fuel economy
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on April 17, 2005, 12:16:42 am ---
Acetone, benzene, alcohol, etc.
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Already in stuff you may already put in your gas tank. Fuel injector cleaners, HEET, etc. Acetone, though, I've never heard of.
I'm thinking everyone thinks you're mixing half/half with your gas, like QB said, it's somewhere between 2-3 ounces per 10 gallons. I've dumped larger quantities of STP fuel injector cleaner in my tank with POSITIVE results.
The one thing that jumped out at me was the lowering of emissions. I'm wondering if I coulda had a van of mine pass by trying this. I changed a valve on the engine because it was stuck, and it went from 500-ish ppm to 120-ish ppm...problem was, it didn't eliminate that .008 :o >:( that kept that car off the road. Of course, all the "state-approved" places were willing to fix it for me, but if they couldn't solve it after $500 of work, I could get a year's extension ::) How about that....we know you don't pass our test, but since you dropped money with someone we approve, we'll let you drive for a year and try again later.
I've got a work truck I'll try it with first. Tune-ups are the easiest thing in the world to do, and that's great advice for someone not doing those easy things, but I'm already doing 'em cuz I know how easy they are. Spark plugs, wires, rotor, cap....all easy things to do, mebbe take me an hour to swap all that stuff.
I dunno about your area, but the government for my area mandated using a fuel additive that helped farmers sell corn, but was found over time to be causing problems with vehicle's fuel systems, we went looking for stations that didn't fit under the program. Magically, mpg went up, and I'd worry less about fuel system problems. I drive all over for work, so the days where I'd be around that area, I take along a few containers.
I'm thinking this idea might work for folks who can't or won't drive to someplace with better gas for their vehicle. I'm gonna look around a bit more to see if there's more to be read, and when I start doing my regular work, I'm thinkin' I'm gonna try it
DrewKaree:
--- Quote from: Chemixtry on April 17, 2005, 01:33:42 am ---
Do really think you are getting an objective view here? The top part of the article trys to look like a scientific article from "Smart Gas". Pure science reporting does not contain such biased language in its reporting. Up to 35% increase in fuel economy. I doubt it. Three cars that are used on the graph are not enough tests to determine a trend. It would take dozens of cars. Also you cant predict what will happen with the additives - i.e. how the acetone will combine with them. Always question WHO is reporting and their credibility.
Federal trade comission addresses this kind of claim
http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/autos/gasave.htm
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I think I got anything BUT an objective view, that's why I brought it up here to see if any car guys had any views on it. I also distrust ANY claims including the words "UP TO" followed by a number designed to get you all in a frenzy as to the benefits of their product.
The difference is that no one is touting a product they sell. They are bringing up a chemical commonly available, and I realize it's prolly folly (nice phrase!) to believe the upper ranges, but if they save me 10%, I gain a gallon of gas. They also recommend doing your OWN tests. It's not like they're standing to gain from you buying a commonly available product, rather than buying "Joe Bloe's Super-Dynamite Gas-Enhancer Miracle" and "doing your own tests".
As for questioning who is reporting, the FTC has done limited tests, according to their own reporting. The quote on gas-saving devices refers to anything from additives to magnets to air disturbance items. Of the fuel additives they tested, everything they reported on - I've never even HEARD of! Why didn't they test commonly available fuel additives, like you'd find at your local Auto-Zone or something? They didn't test this stuff, or anything including it, so I very well may do my own subjective tests.
I understand that it may be junk science in its methods of demonstration for you, but that's why I'm asking for opnions from car guys. I want to know if they have any "this could cause your car to blow sky-high with an eyedropper full added to your gas tank". I'm not looking for chemical validation from those folks. I'm looking for how it will damage the fuel system in my car, because I'm contemplating trying it myself. I already know that dropping a bottle of STP fuel additive in my tank increases MPG and doesn't blow up my car, but it's not worth the $2.25 a bottle - what it saves me, I spend in buying it. I'm willing to do the subjective science myself, after I determine any adverse side effects and weigh the detriments against the benefits.
But I DO appreciate your weighing in on this to give more info :)
I guess I'm looking for "will this blow my car up" info. And not from Shape D, he'll tell me my car will blow up just because I asked, not because he has a clue ;)
danny_galaga:
they used to mix acetone in moto x bikes until they came out with plastic fuel tanks. apparently the acetone effected the tanks and made them brittle or something. i wouldnt have thought it would be a fuel saving measure though as the purpose of using in the bikes was to give you more power (might have increased the octane rating?)
crashwg:
If I ever get my van to pass inspection I'll sure as hell try it...
I friggin hate that van and hope it does destroy it! But if it does work at least we'll know. :D
daywane:
--- Quote from: Chemixtry on April 17, 2005, 01:33:42 am ---
Its just as bad as those who say the government is trying to keep people from having hemp because it has so many wonderful uses. Lets be real - you wan't marijuana to be legal so you can get high.
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well duh!
thats a given ;D