Main Restorations Software Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Everything Else Buy/Sell/Trade
Project Announcements Monitor/Video GroovyMAME Merit/JVL Touchscreen Meet Up Retail Vendors
Driving & Racing Woodworking Software Support Forums Consoles Project Arcade Reviews
Automated Projects Artwork Frontend Support Forums Pinball Forum Discussion Old Boards
Raspberry Pi & Dev Board controls.dat Linux Miscellaneous Arcade Wiki Discussion Old Archives
Lightguns Arcade1Up Try the site in https mode Site News

Unread posts | New Replies | Recent posts | Rules | Chatroom | Wiki | File Repository | RSS | Submit news

  

Author Topic: GunCon2 driver here!!! (Bacon is tasty)  (Read 186056 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #80 on: May 01, 2005, 07:18:56 pm »
I'm working on modding an S-video cable to have a RCA connector spliced on it sort of like the PS2 AV cable has.
« Last Edit: May 01, 2005, 07:20:59 pm by brandon »

JODY

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 548
  • Last login:January 19, 2024, 05:06:29 pm
  • After a long delay...the arcade is underway!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #81 on: May 01, 2005, 07:22:57 pm »

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #82 on: May 02, 2005, 12:02:03 am »
...EDIT

ignore this.. i needed some sleep
« Last Edit: May 02, 2005, 02:36:08 pm by IntruderAlert »

Billkwando

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 178
  • Last login:February 08, 2024, 10:42:45 pm
  • I'm a llama!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #83 on: May 02, 2005, 11:01:39 am »
Also, for those who're interested in using Component Video with the guncon, my understanding is that all you have to do is run the guncon off of the green plug. Apparently this is the way it's done when using guncon on PS2 with component cables.
"If you believe you're up against a swordsman who is proficient in the Way, you will lose."-Miyamoto Musashi

MiKman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 360
  • Last login:March 25, 2018, 12:28:45 pm
  • Blah
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #84 on: May 02, 2005, 11:23:23 am »
Here's something I found for you S-Video guys
http://www.hartsunlimited.com/savcabforpla.html

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41059&item=8189169793&rd=1

http://search.ebay.com/guncon-cable_W0QQfrppZ50QQfsopZ1QQmaxrecordsreturnedZ300

maybe this will do what you want

Thanks for the links, but those cables look very specific to PS2.  although they may be useful as a guide to building our own "PC specific" cables.

MiKman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 360
  • Last login:March 25, 2018, 12:28:45 pm
  • Blah
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #85 on: May 02, 2005, 11:24:17 am »
Also, for those who're interested in using Component Video with the guncon, my understanding is that all you have to do is run the guncon off of the green plug. Apparently this is the way it's done when using guncon on PS2 with component cables.

Excellent! this is good news, when I get my gun all setup I'll try and give some feedback to let everyone know if this works or not.


IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #86 on: May 02, 2005, 03:00:18 pm »
Thanks for the links, but those cables look very specific to PS2.  although they may be useful as a guide to building our own "PC specific" cables.

..ever look back at a post and wonder if you really posted it
happens to me quite often :D

that's what I get for not sleeping enough

..


oh well .. please ignore my previous post



You could build one of these:
http://www.hardwarebook.net/cable/av/svideotocomposite.html

or buy one of these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3762&item=5191729699&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

But I think either one of those is going to kill your SVIDEO signal
in other words, I don't think you could just split the svideo signal and build one of those on one side for the gun because it would screw up your svideo signal

you'd have to just run composite to the gun AND the TV which is not what you want I don't believe

there might be a converter out there somewhere that would have multiple outputs for svideo and composite but the you're talking about more $$$

I'll let you know if I run across a better idea

stevodevo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
  • Last login:March 07, 2022, 11:27:18 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #87 on: May 02, 2005, 05:12:45 pm »
I have the PS2 mission light gun (got it off ebay for $26 shipped). It's a good looking gun!  Also, my 27" TV is the old "cable" input. I'm running an ATI Radeon 9250 TV-out card with s-video.  The s-video cable runs to a "converter" which in turn sends the signal to the cable tv.

The converter also happens to have the RCA inputs so I have the yellow video connector from the mission gun plugged into the "video in" yellow plug on the converter.

So far with smog's driver, XP will recognize the gun but I'm not having good luck being able to see the mouse pointer.

Here's a pic of the mission gun.  I'm gonna mess around with the driver some more tonight.  Let me know if you think this absolutely will not work!

Thanks,
stevodevo

SirPoonga

  • Puck'em Up
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8183
  • Last login:April 12, 2023, 09:22:35 pm
  • The Bears Still Suck!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #88 on: May 02, 2005, 05:16:02 pm »
is it detecting the trigger?

stevodevo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
  • Last login:March 07, 2022, 11:27:18 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #89 on: May 02, 2005, 05:17:45 pm »
Oh - and here's a pic of the converter.

stevodevo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
  • Last login:March 07, 2022, 11:27:18 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #90 on: May 02, 2005, 05:20:28 pm »
sirpoonga, yes it detects the trigger. I can't remember right now but i think one of the other buttons also acts as mouse button 2. Like I've been telling smog on his blog I think I need to mess around with his drivers and make sure i'm using the latest and greatest.  i can see the mouse pointer only on a very small portion of the screen. other wise only a tiny movement will send the "invisible" pointer all over the screen.

stevodevo

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2005, 05:49:32 pm »
Oh - and here's a pic of the converter.

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2005, 11:21:51 pm »
according to the link I posted above.. pin 3 carries the luminance and the sync.. so in theory you could connect the s-video from PC to TV as normal and tap off of that pin and connect it to the Guncon2.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2005, 11:25:29 pm by brandon »

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2005, 11:51:56 pm »
Oh - and here's a pic of the converter.  From left to right the cables are:

power for the converter, cable out to tv, video in (from the gun), and s-video from my tv-out card.

stevodevo

you can follow the action at lightgun.splinder.com


The gun needs to connect to a video out from the PC not the video in.. that's where it gets the sync signal..

plus.. i have my doubts about using that antenna connection on the TV

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #94 on: May 02, 2005, 11:54:11 pm »
according to the link I posted above.. pin 3 carries the luminance and the sync.. so in theory you could connect the s-video from PC to TV as normal and tap off of that pin and connect it to the Guncon2.  of course the guncon would also have to be grounded so I'm guessing that would be pin 1 according to the pinout..  I really hate to cut up an S-video cable just to try this...  :-\  ???

1   Y ground
2   C ground
3   Y (luminance+sync)
4   C (crominance)

Feels weird quoting myself..:) but anyways...

Here's a little illustration for how I plan to connect my PC to my TV using S-video but also connect the Guncon2.  NOTE:  I haven't tested this yet.  although it should work I'm not responsible for: ruined cables, video cards, TV, lightguns, house fires, domestic disputes, abdominal cramps, explosive diarrhea, etc etc.. In other words.. try this at your own risk ;D 

Basically the idea is to slice open the insulation on one end of the s-video cable exposing the wires.  Then using a multimeter, determine which wires are pin 1 and pin 3.  Then using an old RCA cable and splicing it in to the s-video while making sure the wires stay intact and nothing is shorted.  Then tape everything up.  Then you should be able to connect the guncon2 to the RCA while having the svideo connected to the TV.  I'll be building one of these cables myself in a day or so for those of you that would rather wait until I've tested it. 

P.S.  The color of the wiring in the pic means nothing..

it's worth a try :)
i'm interested to know your test results

MiKman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 360
  • Last login:March 25, 2018, 12:28:45 pm
  • Blah
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #95 on: May 03, 2005, 12:05:11 am »
according to the link I posted above.. pin 3 carries the luminance and the sync.. so in theory you could connect the s-video from PC to TV as normal and tap off of that pin and connect it to the Guncon2.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2005, 12:09:07 am by MiKman »

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #96 on: May 03, 2005, 12:29:28 am »
But according to this website you need to combine 1 & 2 and also combine 3 & 4 with a capacitor...
http://www.tkk.fi/Misc/Electronics/circuits/svideo2cvideo.html

this is only if you want to convert the signal to composite video.

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #97 on: May 03, 2005, 12:35:56 am »
yeah.. this is probably the only way to get the sync without ruining the svideo signal

i hope it works ;)

by the way.. I've built svideo cables out of CAT5 and connectors from radio shack
the connectors are labled so you don't even have to test or guess about the pin numbers
but if you have an old rca cable and svideo cable lying around you could just cut them in two, test to determine the pin placement  and hack them together

...oh .. and I think you'll need a female RCA connector there brandon
« Last Edit: May 03, 2005, 12:44:31 am by IntruderAlert »

stevodevo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
  • Last login:March 07, 2022, 11:27:18 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #98 on: May 03, 2005, 08:43:24 am »
Thanks brandon - yeah I wondered about the whole converter thing.  But you're right - video out not video in!

So I'll be waiting for you to finish your hack then I might give it a go! Thanks for the tip.

stevodevo

beauds

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2
  • Last login:May 09, 2005, 01:11:13 pm
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #99 on: May 03, 2005, 01:27:30 pm »
is there a specific reason we cant just buy a cable that does this? I found this cable online
http://www.svideo.com/prosvideo6.html
and it seems like it will do everything we want to do.

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #100 on: May 03, 2005, 03:15:03 pm »
is there a specific reason we cant just buy a cable that does this? I found this cable online
http://www.svideo.com/prosvideo6.html
and it seems like it will do everything we want to do.

that cable adapts S-video to composite, which would allow for the connection of the guncon2 but would also significantly reduce the picture quality.

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #101 on: May 04, 2005, 01:57:11 pm »
according to the link I posted above.. pin 3 carries the luminance and the sync.. so in theory you could connect the s-video from PC to TV as normal and tap off of that pin and connect it to the Guncon2.

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #102 on: May 04, 2005, 02:03:23 pm »
That's GREAT Brandon!
Don't worry about your tracking problem too much for now.
That will most likely not be fixed until Smog makes the calibration software
Great work though!  8)

Billkwando

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 178
  • Last login:February 08, 2024, 10:42:45 pm
  • I'm a llama!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #103 on: May 04, 2005, 02:06:28 pm »
Sounds awesome....yeah don't worry about the calibration....
"If you believe you're up against a swordsman who is proficient in the Way, you will lose."-Miyamoto Musashi

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #104 on: May 04, 2005, 02:09:08 pm »
so is that typical for everyone else that's tried it?  If so then I'm not too worried about it.. I'll just wait for calibration to be added.  I may still make the homemade composite adapter just to see if I get different results.

loddie

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 52
  • Last login:November 24, 2011, 01:25:36 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #105 on: May 04, 2005, 05:21:36 pm »

Billkwando

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 178
  • Last login:February 08, 2024, 10:42:45 pm
  • I'm a llama!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #106 on: May 04, 2005, 05:25:19 pm »
That allows you to use an older Guncon on PS2 but doesn't really do much for PC in the Guncon sense. It's been mentioned on this board somewhere.....
"If you believe you're up against a swordsman who is proficient in the Way, you will lose."-Miyamoto Musashi

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #107 on: May 04, 2005, 06:30:27 pm »
well.. if that adapter converted guncon1 to guncon2 then would it not also work for PC sense guncon2 is almost working for PC?  who knows :)

spiffyshoes

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 620
  • Last login:September 20, 2015, 01:24:46 pm
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #108 on: May 04, 2005, 07:10:31 pm »
I thought GunCon1 Allready worked for PC useing a serial port adapter?

stevodevo

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 113
  • Last login:March 07, 2022, 11:27:18 am
  • I want to build my own arcade controls!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #109 on: May 05, 2005, 09:11:08 am »
Great work Brandon! I think everyone is having the calibration problems you mentioned...still it probably won't hurt to try as many different options as possible.  Eliminating a possible source of problem would make solving this easier...

Billkwando

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 178
  • Last login:February 08, 2024, 10:42:45 pm
  • I'm a llama!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #110 on: May 05, 2005, 09:47:26 am »
The adaptor requires drivers to function so I sincerely doubt it will be of any use.
"If you believe you're up against a swordsman who is proficient in the Way, you will lose."-Miyamoto Musashi

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #111 on: May 05, 2005, 10:25:28 am »
The adaptor requires drivers to function so I sincerely doubt it will be of any use.

Yeah,

GunCon2 also needs a driver but we have Smog already doing that :)

GunCon2 us already USB so it eliminates the need for this type adapter
Plus you'd still need a way to get a sync
« Last Edit: May 05, 2005, 10:27:41 am by IntruderAlert »

1UP

  • Token Junkie
  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2081
  • Last login:November 11, 2014, 01:37:18 am
  • Yes, that is a joystick in my pocket.
    • 1UPArcade
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #112 on: May 06, 2005, 01:21:49 am »
is there a specific reason we cant just buy a cable that does this? I found this cable online
http://www.svideo.com/prosvideo6.html
and it seems like it will do everything we want to do.

that cable adapts S-video to composite, which would allow for the connection of the guncon2 but would also significantly reduce the picture quality.

Free resource for building your own rotating control panels!

My other job...


MiKman

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 360
  • Last login:March 25, 2018, 12:28:45 pm
  • Blah
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #113 on: May 06, 2005, 01:27:05 am »
Yup I was just thinking the same thing. I bet it's definately doable.  If you can get ahold of a svideo Y splitter cable, thats the ticket for sure. :-)

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #114 on: May 06, 2005, 01:48:50 am »
Yup I was just thinking the same thing. I bet it's definately doable.

IntruderAlert

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 873
  • Last login:May 02, 2007, 09:10:59 am
  • Chicken.. Fight Like A Robot
    • Intruder Alert
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #115 on: May 06, 2005, 09:55:59 am »
yep

Billkwando

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 178
  • Last login:February 08, 2024, 10:42:45 pm
  • I'm a llama!
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #116 on: May 06, 2005, 10:05:58 am »
I had to come all the way here for "yep"!?!

LMAO!!!
"If you believe you're up against a swordsman who is proficient in the Way, you will lose."-Miyamoto Musashi

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #117 on: May 08, 2005, 09:01:24 pm »
new driver released!! http://lightgun.splinder.com/   ;D

Flinkly

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1244
  • Last login:March 14, 2017, 01:14:21 pm
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #118 on: May 09, 2005, 01:43:38 pm »
so...does it work?  common guys, the driver comes out and no one has anything to say about functionality?

brandon

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 807
  • Last login:October 19, 2023, 03:08:43 pm
  • I <3 arcade games.
Re: GunCon2 driver on the way??
« Reply #119 on: May 09, 2005, 02:12:10 pm »