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49-way vs 4-way vs 8-way in MAME: Differences...
Tiger-Heli:
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--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 13, 2005, 01:13:03 pm ---You said the A-PAC was in development months ago, and the GP-Wiz thread didn't exist, but only about a month ago, (in the GP-Wiz (not GP-Wiz49) thread) Andy stated that gamepads didn't work well in MAME as an interface. So he was saying they didn't work well at the same time he was developing (or getting ready to release) a product based on the concept.
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I think you're being unfair. What choice does Andy have?
If you want to develop an analogue interface then at this point in time you really have only two viable options - use the old gameport/midi interface or make use of the USB HID standard. Gameport interfaces are slowly disappearing so that leaves USB HID devices.
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You missed my point. I never argued that an analog interface shouldn't be a USB interface.
My point was that if he was developing one on his own, he shouldn't be posting that they sucked for MAME in the GP-Wiz thread while his own solution was being developed.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: chasmosis on April 13, 2005, 02:04:31 pm ---While Andy did make a few comments on the GP49 announcement thread I don't feel that i've ever seen any of Andy's posts that were as agressive or openly confrontational as RandyT's. On other boards, I could easily see RandyT's posts in this thread getting moderated as trolls.
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Well, it's a personality issue really. Some folks you can never really get to know (or trust), while others will put things right out on the table so you can make an informed assessment. Likewise, some folks will smack you in the chops for insulting their wives, and others will smile and wait until you aren't looking before they stick a shiv between your ribs. The example is a little extreme, but you get the idea.
--- Quote ---I'm honestly curious what RandyT feels he needs to prove by hi-jacking this thread. If anyone disagree's with my hi-jacking statement please feel free to count postings by each. Before I began writing this response, Andy had 5 posts including the one starting this thread, RandyT had 6.
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It's a history lesson that I'm not going to type out for you. It's all here. Just read and put yourself in the shoes of the person you wish to condemn.
--- Quote ---Going back to earlier posts about folks copying others, I guess I don't see it the same way.
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So. I take it you are not an IP attorney :)
RandyT
Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: Flinkly on April 13, 2005, 02:18:33 pm ---i'd have to counter your argument monkeybomb. randy's interface is still very viable if you look at the fact that there aren't yet that many games that require analog sticks, and some that do don't run. also, analog sticks are in the hundreds, where 49-ways are 30 bucks. i'd still get the 49 interface just due to price, but also, it doesn't make sense to me to pay 200-300 more for something i'll rarely use. after that though, i'd love to pay 200-300 for a star wars yoke.
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Flinkly,
You missed what Andy is developing. If he successfully makes an Analog joystick that can be limited in firmware to digital throw and 4-way and 8-way modes, then it essentially works for all the joystick games in mameTM including yoke and pot-based steering wheel games, analog joystick and digital joystick. Whether he can pull that off, we don't know yet.
Peale,
When you finish the Pepsi, how come my IP address is posted and everone else's says "logged" and how do I fix it.
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 13, 2005, 02:25:57 pm ---
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on April 13, 2005, 02:14:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 13, 2005, 01:13:03 pm ---You said the A-PAC was in development months ago, and the GP-Wiz thread didn't exist, but only about a month ago, (in the GP-Wiz (not GP-Wiz49) thread) Andy stated that gamepads didn't work well in MAME as an interface. So he was saying they didn't work well at the same time he was developing (or getting ready to release) a product based on the concept.
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I think you're being unfair. What choice does Andy have?
If you want to develop an analogue interface then at this point in time you really have only two viable options - use the old gameport/midi interface or make use of the USB HID standard. Gameport interfaces are slowly disappearing so that leaves USB HID devices.
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You missed my point. I never argued that an analog interface shouldn't be a USB interface.
My point was that if he was developing one on his own, he shouldn't be posting that they sucked for MAME in the GP-Wiz thread while his own solution was being developed.
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IIRC (and I really can't be bothered to look up the thread) he didn't say they 'sucked for MAME' he merely said that a keyboard interface is preferable for digital devices, something I agree with.
monkeybomb:
tiger click your address it will say this
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You cannot see other members' IP addresses, and they cannot see yours."