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49-way vs 4-way vs 8-way in MAME: Differences...
RandyT:
--- Quote from: MajorLag on April 16, 2005, 10:19:43 pm ---Heres how it works:
In DIGITAL mode: Gamepad uses X and Y axis, jumps from 0 to maximum values in any given direction. Left analog stick acts the same after being pushed more then half way in any given direction (give or take some). Right analog stick does not function. All buttons except L3 and R3 work as expected.
In ANALOG mode: Gamepad acts as POV hat. Left Analog uses X and Y axis and acts as one would expect an analog control to act. Right analog stick uses Z Axis and Z Rotation and acts as one would expect an analog control to act. All buttons, including L3 and R3, act as expected.
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The POV controls are not comparable. If the analog stick does not look and act exactly as a D-Pad does in the X / Y Axes of the Gaming Options dialog in Windows, then we are talking about different birds.
Please research the data generated for POV controls to see how they differ from the data generated for X and Y Axes.
RandyT
Xiaou2:
Its pretty much just as he said it.
The windows view shows an analog control box and the standard pov and buttons.
When you press analog stick in analog mode... it moves just as an analog should. The d-pad will function as POV buttons in analog mode.
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When in Digital mode... Pressing the analog stick will move the analog box - but not smooth like an analog controller. By pressing about half way in any direction... the analog display box will show the cursor snap from the center to full extent (very edge) in the direction you are pressing in.
The dpad will act as a dpad
I have the Saitek p880. Works the same way as described.
The older 1st generation gampads didnt function well - and used software to work. They realized this mistake, and made it all function in hardware now. I never installed the drivers either... as they are not needed for the thing to work.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on April 17, 2005, 06:56:59 am ---
When in Digital mode... Pressing the analog stick will move the analog box - but not smooth like an analog controller. By pressing about half way in any direction... the analog display box will show the cursor snap from the center to full extent (very edge) in the direction you are pressing in.
The dpad will act as a dpad
I have the Saitek p880. Works the same way as described.
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Does it snap to the outer ring in any direction or only the primary 8 like a D-Pad? And is it doing it in the X/Y Axes box or the POV box? Because based on the research I just did on the model you mentioned, what you are saying can't be true....unless both the D-Pad and the analog pad are active as the same controller at the same time. Even so, behaviour is important.
--- Quote --- The older 1st generation gampads didnt function well - and used software to work. They realized this mistake, and made it all function in hardware now. I never installed the drivers either... as they are not needed for the thing to work.
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From the FAQ for your gamepad:
Q6: My d-pad was working fine but when I restart my PC it no longer works when using the digital button to activate it. What can I do?
A6: Some people find that their PC does not correctly activate the driver on restart. To solve this you will need to open the Game Controllers icon in Control Panel and access the Properties for the pad. Test the d-pad by pressing the digital button and when it works, close Game Controllers and play your game - it should then be fine.
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Sure sounds like the driver and that Digital button are working "hand -in-hand" to me. :)
RandyT
MajorLag:
I can assure you that there are no special drivers nessesary to use the adaptor I have (some cheap radioshack thing). It functions as a HID compliant device and only requires drivers if you want force feedback.
To answer your question: When using the analog stick in digital mode it will only produce the same values that a dpad could. In other words, only the primary 8 directions. This is done in the X/Y box, not the POV.
RandyT:
--- Quote from: MajorLag on April 18, 2005, 11:12:22 am ---I can assure you that there are no special drivers nessesary to use the adaptor I have (some cheap radioshack thing).
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Adaptor?
What kind of device are we talking about? BTW, I really do appreciate the info that is being porovided on these various devices, even though none have quite hit the mark yet.
RandyT