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Hey y'all, looks like the pope might be about to die
Bones:
I really don't want to open a tin of worms here or show what appears to be a lack of respect, but JP2's "replacement" will probably be another well aged fellow.
For this reason I don't feel newer ways of thinking will enter the church in the very near future.
RayB:
Ding dong the pope is dead...
jbox:
--- Quote ---I really don't want to open a tin of worms here or show what appears to be a lack of respect, but JP2's "replacement" will probably be another well aged fellow.
For this reason I don't feel newer ways of thinking will enter the church in the very near future.
--- End quote ---
I had the distinct advantage of knowing many "well aged fellow"s that were serving the Catholic church who were completely aware of the difference between a religious democracy and a theocracy. That's not the problem per se, because people who know that:
(a) they can't be sacked
(b) they can't be over-ruled
(c) they're going to die anyway
do occassionally go against the grain if that is the feeling in their heart. Don't leaving Governers tend to pardon more people on their way out than their way in?
The only real danger with the current conclave is that Wojtyla lived for so long that there are only a couple of people he didn't put in there. I remain cautiously optimistic however on the next Pope being an 'outie', devoutly religous, and actually dedicated to building bridges to communities the Church has traditionally had difficulty relating to. Don't forget that some of these people joined the church *after* Vatican II, so they at least presumably agree with *some* of it, which means we just have to wait for the rest of the pre-60's lot to 'advance' their personal relationship with God.
ChadTower:
Raping children is bad. People under his watch were rewarded for raping, abetting the rape, and knowingly placing children in a position where they would be raped. He should go to Hell for that alone. He REWARDED Cardinal Law with a prestigious position at the Vatican when it became public that the MA Attorney General was finally screwing up the courage to indict Law. Within a week of that story, Law was a "Special Advisor" at the Vatican. Law became untouchable, you can't extradite from there. Law was promoted and saved from accountability when the public became aware of how long he had been moving child rapists around and giving them access to fresh children.
And this is only ONE example. I don't care how much good people think he may have done. Children were raped, he knew it, and he hid it and allowed it to continue.
danny_galaga:
catholics need no longer be embarrassed by easter sermons. perhaps the new pope will make it so that he isnt pope for life. oh, and maybe get with the times and allow contraception...