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Schiavo rumblings
mr.Curmudgeon:
fredster,
When I talk about hypocrisy, I also mean things like this:
NY Times, 3/23/05:
Among them was Senator Tom Coburn, Republican of Oklahoma and a family practice doctor, who said in an interview, 'I don't think you have to examine her. All you have to do is look at her on TV. Any doctor with any conscience can look at her and know that she does not have a terminal disease and know that she has some function.'
Tulsa World, 7/20/98:
[In] an interview after [Coburn]'s panel appearance, he conceded the issue of caring for a terminally ill patient brings with it complex questions and is not always simple. For example, under certain circumstances when there is no hope of recovery, he said physicians should have the option of withholding nutrients and water from a dying patient. Coburn said he has done that in the past. 'If somebody does not want a feeding tube, I won't put a feeding tube down,' he said.
mrC
Grasshopper:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 24, 2005, 04:42:13 pm --- Gitmo was people stacking people naked more like a college frat initiation.
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I'm glad I didn't go to your college. :o
Edit: grammar.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 25, 2005, 03:02:01 pm ---
--- Quote from: fredster on March 24, 2005, 04:42:13 pm --- Gitmo was people stacking people naked more like a college frat initiation.
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I glad I didn't go to your college. :o
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It explains a lot about fredster though. I think I understand him better now.
Plus, that happened in Abu Gharib in Iraq, not Gitmo and it's a cold-hearted, callous thing to say if they are innocent. A lot more happened than stacking people naked, (one man died while hanging from his wrists) show some compassion why don't ya'...a lot of these people held there were released, for christsakes, because they were held for no reason. These weren't the terrorists we were all programmed to see.
edited by saint: No more shock pictures! Link to these if you want, or put them in a thread that clearly states to people what they'll find within.
Picture of Iraqi prisoner, possibly deceased
Picture of deceased Iraqi prisoner with jubilant American soldier standing over
End of edit by saint
So a vegatative women, having her body peacefully shut down*, is somehow worse?
mrC
* For the record, I tend to side with the majority of doctors that have stated she won't feel any pain because that portion of the brain is gone. Beyond that, I believe the body inherently shuts down the nervous system at some point to degrade the amount of pain it would feel in a state like this. Plus, she won't die of "starvation", but rather "dehydration". That's the reason people on hunger-strikes (Ghandi) still drink water. You can go a long time without food, but water is a necessity. Finally, I'd rather advocate injection in her case, but as Florida law (based on religious fundies pandering) doesn't allow for that...removing the feeding tube is really the best, and only, option available.
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 25, 2005, 03:02:01 pm ---I glad I didn't go to your college. :o
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I is glad me wasn't gone to you is college.
;D
shmokes:
All your college is belong to us.