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DrewKaree:
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Just one thing, the automotive companies are doing what then can to reduce emissions. But what's really hurting the environment is all the small engines. (Lawn Mower, Gas trimmer) as those have no smog filter on them.
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Then you haven't been paying attention. The fuel economy on those things not only is increasing, they're also doing the four-stroke dance too, same way they are working on cars. Also, to say that's what's really hurting the environment isn't understanding the vast differential between the amount of 2-cycle engines in the world vs. the methane champions of the world.
Methinks if you had uttered those words, GG, you could be guilty of harming the ozone yourself with that hot air ;)
GGKoul:
--- Quote from: DrewKaree on March 28, 2005, 11:16:49 am ---
--- Quote from: GGKoul on March 28, 2005, 11:05:05 am ---
Just one thing, the automotive companies are doing what then can to reduce emissions.
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Crazy Cooter:
--- Quote from: GGKoul on March 28, 2005, 11:05:05 am ---Just one thing, the automotive companies are doing what then can to reduce emissions.
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Huh??
The auto companies are the biggest lobbyists against emmision stuff. They spend a PILE of money to avoid cleaning cars up. It's all profit margin stuff. Not only are they not "doing what they can", they try to keep the requirements lower. Search for mpg requirements and look at that whole battle. Clean air isn't profitable for them.
Crazy Cooter:
Nuts. I forgot my Exxon/OPEC link from this morning. here you go Drew (it's a long but interesting read):
http://www2.exxonmobil.com/corporate/Citizenship/Corp_citizenship_energy_outlook.asp
fredster:
Hey, let's not be bad mouthing Star Trek, okay? :(
Until somebody finds the dilithium Crystals, we are kinda stuck with oil. I wish that France or Germany or even the UK find a good power source we can all use to fuel factories and cars.
I think I like the I-Robot cars. That's the kinda car I think we'll come up with.
--- Quote ---The auto companies are the biggest lobbyists against emission stuff. They spend a PILE of money to avoid cleaning cars up. It's all profit margin stuff. Not only are they not "doing what they can", they try to keep the requirements lower. Search for mpg requirements and look at that whole battle. Clean air isn't profitable for them.
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I can't agree with that simplistic view. When gas burns it makes those gases. There are limits to technology. We have come to a point where we will not be able to improve on the internal combustion engine any more.
Ask yourself if you really believe that we can actually have clean air if we use gasoline and oil to run our cars? Is it really possible?