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ChadTower:



--- Quote ---They're getting stronger whilst the west, at least in relative terms, is getting weaker.
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Uh, yeah.  Good work, math wiz.  If they're getting stronger, relatively speaking, we are getting weaker.  Reflexivity works that way.

Grasshopper:

China is getting stronger in economic terms. It will eventually get stronger in military terms as well.

With regards to your second point, my mistake. I meant to say the days when major industrialised countries went to war WITH EACH OTHER are gone.

Iraq is not a major industrialised country and neither is Argentina.

I'm not saying wars won't happen but they'll tend to be proxy wars fought in the third world.

Grasshopper:


--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 23, 2005, 02:48:46 pm ---

--- Quote ---They're getting stronger whilst the west, at least in relative terms, is getting weaker.
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Uh, yeah.  Good work, math wiz.  If they're getting stronger, relatively speaking, we are getting weaker.  Reflexivity works that way.

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Not true. The economies of most western countries are expanding but not at China's pace. We're also getting stronger militarily as well thanks to new technology. But China will overtake us in that area as well eventually.

ChadTower:


--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 23, 2005, 02:56:35 pm ---Not true. The economies of most western countries are expanding but not at China's pace. We're also getting stronger militarily as well thanks to new technology. But China will overtake us in that area as well eventually.

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Yes, it IS true.  The key word in his equation is RELATIVELY.  If they are gaining on us, we are getting weaker relative to them.  It's a very simple piece of grammar.

mccoy178:

I don't forsee any major confrontations anytime soon.  I thought the question was wether or not China was the next biggest super power.  Economically, they are a force to be reconned with.  They probably will be the next hegemony due to the fact they have the size and the resources, and most importantly, a drive to be the leader.  Look what they did to the steal industry last year.  I think we are more like the Roman empire.  We are almost to the point of watching us kill each other for entertainment (reality t.v. anyone?).  It's hard to get to the top, but impossible to stay there.  I'm more worried about the people who lead our country than China.  Why would anybody in Congress care about a woman in Florida enough to grab all the headlines?  What about Social Security?  That's why we are going into decline.  We wouldn't need the oil if money didn't make the world go 'round.  Taiwan and South Korea are going to cause us problems in the future, but I jst can't see us taking action to the next level.  Nobody wants that.  The Iraq war was about as far is it will get without a major incident (like 9/11).  As far as the conspiracy theorists, the Chinese have about as much a chance to invade the mainland, as the terrorists have had in causing terror strikes.  We're not some walk in the park.  If we get motivated, the world will know.  When you have WWII on your resume, it's pretty hard to prove the statement wrong. 

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