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Xiaou2:



 I donno what yoke you are talking about but starwars is pretty packed... with only exception to the very top space.. and even that isnt very big.

 The yoke box is big enough to house the large drive gear for better accuracy.   Also you can see its packed with dual springs, 2 external but hidden bumpers, and many other things.   

 Also note that because the box is about 5 inches - it allows them to place the handles near the front of the box so theres no need for a special rasied box.     

  While I applaud charles efforts... I also have to say that theres really good reasons that these controls were designed certain ways. 

 Its very dangerous/expensive to try to redesign them in other fashions.. as you may encounted problems with failures that these guys had already overcome long ago.    It also may change the feel and or control of the thing - which will upset and keep away potential fans/customers.

 

Xiaou2:

and the rear...



And btw -  The reason Roadblasters was smaller, is because it wasnt as complex and also used Optical discs instead of pots.   

However... Optical yokes dont work so hot in mame. (calibration issues)
And even so... may need gearing for better accuracy as well.    Roadblasters didnt need as much accuracy in the Y axis afaik... at least, not compared to sw.

Edit:  Looking over a pic of  the  RoadBlaster internals... it appears that there is no Y axis.   The grips do NOT move back and forth. 
The only y axis in the game is the foot pedal.
 
 Also, just as thought, the rear uses optics.. but its 'geared' for more accuracy.





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--- Quote from: Xiaou2 on March 21, 2005, 04:45:56 am ---I donno what yoke you are talking about but starwars is pretty packed... with only exception to the very top space.. and even that isnt very big.

 The yoke box is big enough to house the large drive gear for better accuracy.
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Xiaou2:

 First off, Get your facts straight.   Roadblasters is Not an x y yoke.
KLOV is Not correct in its description.   Want proof?   Play the game... or, download the PDF on KLOV like I did, and you will clearly see that there is no Y axis on the wheel.    The only y is the gas foot pedal as stated.

   "That picture is a bit misleading"   - Actually its not.   I have a yoke, and have tooken them appart.  Used to work in the arcades for 3yrs as a manager/repair guy.    The size is mostly to allow for the nearly 3 inch diameter drive gear.

  Never claimed the Pot took up lots of room, but the gearing does.  If you reduced the teeth - them maybe you could reduce the size of the yoke.  However... that also makes it possible for gears to slip.   Or you could use smaller gears - but you lose accuracy.  Hmm... how do I know this???  I built my first proto with a direct drive (no gears), and windows didnt even want to calibrate it.  Then built another with 2 small gears... and while worked... not well... so bit the bullet and rebuilt the thing to hold the large gear - which works great.

 "hospitalized by your homemade, wooden yoke?"

 Obviously you misunderstand the wording.   Not physically dangerous, but rather expensive and time consuming in trying to reinvent the entire thing, rework the bugs and failures, and maintain quality...ect.   Trust me, my damn yoke probably cost well over 100$ worth of failed parts... days worth of rebuilds, searching and shopping.. ect.   In the end - I would have been better off buying a real controller... which in the end, I did.

 "There are many different ways to do things, and it's disappointing to see you pick apart"

  Im basically popping my opinion in there as I see fit.  I have just as much right as anyone else here to do so.   My intent is not to offend nor pick on Charlie - but as I stated, to help to make the product better.   I do not see anything wrong with that.

  I also am a customer for parts.   If I want something a certain way... Ill ask for it like that.   If I cant get it, Ill find a real one or make my own, as I choose not to accept a low standard of quality.   This is how I am, and Im sure others are as well.   

 Im sure many choose to keep their opinions to themselves because fear of getting beat down on the message board for making a critical comment.


Xiaou2:

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