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RandyT:

--- Quote from: AndyWarne on March 19, 2005, 04:43:03 am ---To expand on this..
This subject used to come up regularly on this board, with talk of electronically limiting an 8-way to a 4-way etc. The final conclusion of these threads (if there is such a thing as a conclusion!) was that any stick which has a 360 degree movement, be it an 8-way, 49-way or whatever, can never be a 4-way.

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Things change, even though you do not wish them to.  If you stopped your comments at electronic restriction of an 8-way stick, I would fully agree.  But your tossing in of the 49-way to the mix (for reasons that are all too obvious) is dead wrong.  Not only is electronic restriction possible on a 49-way, but I have done it and it works well.


--- Quote --- The reason is that on a 4-way if you push right, for example, then push in a generally upward direction, the stick will end up at 12 o'clock, where it should be, rather than 1:30'ish. The restrictor plate does this for you. That's the difference between playing Pacman and stirring porridge.

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I guess you'll never know how good a control feels when it goes where you expect it to without bashing the shaft of a joystick into an immovable object.  Maybe you should open your mind a little, or stick to "stirring porridge." :)

RandyT
Matt Berry:
For some games an 8-way joystick will work instead of using a 4-way. Just like a mouse will "work" for tempest and arkonoid, and either way you'll get what you consider a high score. Use the correct controls and your score will shoot through the roof. All said and done, when the action becomes fast paced, and you are trying to make it up the ladder before a barrel smashes you in the head. A "good" 4-way will make it while the 8-way will pause that small milli second and your brains are smashed out by a  barrel thrown by an oversized monkey who has stolen your girl. Nobody wants that. It's all about having the right controls for the game, and untill you do you'll never know what you are missing.
TOK:
Just want a comment on the T-Stick + and "never used a 4 way thing".
I have a lot of people play my cab that haven't played arcade games in a while. When they try to use the T-Stick with 4 way games -in 4 way mode- they have problems. The sticks just have too weird of a feel for a novice. Everyone that has tried Donkey Kong can't get up the ladders smoothly, and they are also all over with Ms. Pac Man.

I like my T-Sticks for shooters, and I do OK at everything with them now that I'm acclimated, but I found myself wanting more of the standard feel sticks. I never even switch the T-Sticks to 4 way anymore because I don't find it to be that big of a deal.
Now that I've watched people try, I actually think it would be easier for a newbie to play a 4 way game with a traditional 8 way than a T-Stick in 4 way. I just ordered a couple of Happs Competition for the main cab, and I'm moving the T-Sticks over to a vertical bartop.

Matt Berry:
I found I preferred the J-stick in 4-way over the T-stick in 4-way (the J-stick's light spring feels sloppy which sucks, needs to be upgraded).  Overall hands down the best 4-ways are wico's which easily stomps all of the competition. You'd have to try one that is in good shape to know what I'm talking about. If you haven't played a 4-way game with a 4-way wico, that is probably why you prefer 8-way joys, but once you experience the big league you won't want to go back to the minor's.
RayB:
Randy I don't understand why you replied the way you did to Andy. He's 100% correct. (and he never claimed you COULDN'T electronically restrict joys--he said you could, but it just wouldn't feel right in most 4-way games).



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