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fredster:
What was Bush right about exactly?
The war on Terror would be a long one.
He was right to take out Saddam. He backed terrorists and enabled terrorists
Bush was right to ignore Arafat and stand by Israel.
Bush was right to support Israel in building thier wall. It was 100% effective in stopping the war.
Bush broke up the middle east and has taken down a very dangerous belt of totalitarian systems.
Bush was right to ignore the groaning of the Europeans and follow through.
Lybia gave up their arms in fear. Egypt is going to hold elections, Lebannon has kicked out Syria. Bush has reshaped the Middle East.
Bush has been wrong on one big thing though. I'm very surprised that you haven't banged that drum. It's his biggest weakness, and that's here at home. We have Mexicans everywhere and nobody stopping them from comming in. That's the biggest Scandal of the Bush administration. If you want to hit him, don't hit him with the Middle East,that he has won, and won hands down. Hit him here. This border situation is way out of control.
The boarders are open and our health care system is bankrupting itself, crime is rampant within these groups, and drugs are pouring in. Jobs are being compromised and we are turning a blind eye.
I don't buy for one minute that American's won't do these jobs. Not one freaking minute. The caveat is that Americans won't do these jobs for the money they want to pay. It's bringing down the wages and quality of life for all Americans. If they can't hire somebody for $5 then they have to pay them $10 to keep them. The issue is we want cheap food and services, and we are basically using cheap labor. It's not the corporation's fault, it's the people's fault for not demanding these people be gone. It's a national disgrace.
Come up with a democrat that says he will enforce the immagration laws and kick out the foreigners that are here illegally MrC and I will join your group.
ChadTower:
Illegal immigration is our country's #1 problem, hands down. I agree with that.
Bush may have reshaped the Middle East and 'won', but I personally don't think it was worth the cost to us. I didn't and continue to not give a crap about the Middle East so long as it stays in the Middle East.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: fredster on March 17, 2005, 12:43:50 am ---What was Bush right about exactly?
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I love how you Bush supporters fall over yourselves giving credit to your Dear Leader for things that have absolutely no causal link to ANYTHING Bush has done, yet you are loath to take responsibility for the things that go wrong as a direct response to the decisions (or lack thereof) Bush has made. (Ie: Raided munitions dumps, raided manufacturing plants, NO WMD, torture, 9-11 warnings, HUGE deficits, attempt to dismantle social security, job loss, less global allies, unsecured ports, no Osama Bin Laden, and on and on)
You can't have it both ways.
--- Quote ---The war on Terror would be a long one.
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This is *far* from being over. How many years was it between attacks on the trade towers? (1993 - 2001) Who was responsible for planning and carrying out the attacks? 1993 - Ramzi Yousef [CAPTURED] / 2001 - Osama Bin Laden [STILL FREE]
Clinton got the bad guys who attacked us, your man doesn't care anymore about the man who killed 3000+ Americans.
--- Quote ---He was right to take out Saddam. He backed terrorists and enabled terrorists
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Never proven. More ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. Osama hated Saddam...had nothing to do w/ 9-11.
--- Quote ---Bush was right to ignore Arafat and stand by Israel.
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Bush ignored the whole issue, because he is an idiot. Arafat died, had nothing to do with Bush.
--- Quote ---Bush was right to support Israel in building thier wall. It was 100% effective in stopping the war.
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Are you kidding me? It hasn't stopped anything, there has been plenty of attacks since. The relative calm lately is due to recent negotiations, brought about by the new Palestinian leaders.
--- Quote ---Bush broke up the middle east and has taken down a very dangerous belt of totalitarian systems.
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NO CAUSAL LINK TO IRAQ, YOU FOOLS!
--- Quote ---Bush was right to ignore the groaning of the Europeans and follow through.
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Until we need them, that is.
--- Quote ---Lybia gave up their arms in fear. Egypt is going to hold elections, Lebannon has kicked out Syria. Bush has reshaped the Middle East.
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Again, NO CAUSAL LINK TO IRAQ, YOU FOOLS! (Maybe I need to get a bigger font)
mrC
ChadTower:
Things don't always have to have a causal link in order to be part of a coherent plan. Just taking into account the likelihood of an occurrence and accounting for it is part of any type of stretegic planning.
Bush may not have caused those things, but it does seem as though those things were accounted for and loosely planned around.
Of course, it could well be taken into account after the fact as well.
I hate the whole thing at this point. Screaming about Bush this and Bush that only makes things worse. Bush is not a good president. Can you suggest someone better who actually wants the freakin' job?
Dartful Dodger:
--- Quote from: ChadTower on March 18, 2005, 11:09:40 am ---Bush is not a good president.
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Bush is a great president. He may even be the best president.
Mr C even though he is the greatest president you can relax President Bush will not be running again in 2008.