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Help with google listing
« on: March 12, 2005, 09:14:33 am »
I hope this doesn't sound like a silly question.  I have read many articles on how to get your site listed higher in google.  It seems important to have many links from other sites.  My question is does anyone know any other message boards that allow links in your sig?  I am not intending to spam, I figure there has to be something worth talking about on other boards.  I asked some questions at arcade@home on their message board about the Raiden series, and was give a link that said "your post was answered here".  Being used to the cleanness I find here, I clicked without thinking.  It was a link to a full screen pic of a girl upsidedown taking a liquid dump on herself.  Yes, gross.  But what bothered me is my two boys were in the same room, (but luckily were currently being hypnotized by the tv).  I was told I was being punished for trying to put a link in my sig.  So don't reccomend arcade@home...lol  I would be welcome to any other tips for ranking higher in search engines.  BTW, I have heard that search engines are too smart to be fooled by content that is same color as the background.  But can they be fooled by text that is 15 points color different than the background?

Any sugestions would be much appreciated!

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2005, 06:46:20 pm »
Sounds to me like you just got a reply from an idiot, more then somebody bugging you about your signature.  Unless you then contacted an admin about the pic that was replied to you, and they told you about the "punishment" line.  Either way, thats ridiculous.  Almost every forum allows links in signatures(although some don't allow the freeipod sort of things), but if not they should be stated in the rules when you register for the forum.

But Google wise...just get your link out there.  Either in signatures, have other people link to your page, submit your site to other search engines(MSN, Yahoo, Excite, etc).  Those are the best thing to do really. 

And content the same color as the background...So basically flooding useless keywords in the background for the search engine to find, but the user would not see?  I can understand why they might ignore that, but I haven't heard about it personally.  I'd just refrain from it in general though, cause if a user ever highlights your page or looks at your site code and sees all sorts of odd keywords, it just looks ugly. 

So basically just spread your link around.  And of course, do an actually Google search on how to improve your Google ranking.  There are forums dedicated to the topic that can help you better then I can ;)

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2005, 09:38:13 pm »
dont forget to mention your site in the text of your responses sometimes https://dannygalaga.com/

google doesnt like same colour text as background because its a naughty place site trick so they will give you a worse ranking than if you had no superfluous text. also make sure there arent any dead links on your site. and try and get your address on as many RELEVANT sites as possible. so here is a damn good start (",). apparently google is a bit mysterious in whatever it is they are looking for exactly but what ive mentioned is safe at least...
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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2005, 09:47:53 am »
I appreciate the replies.  I was surprised though, that just about no one is even viewing this thread.  I've seen more people read things with stupid titles like, "help", or "problem", or "must see".  I though my title was stupid enough, maybe I should change it to something like "need all BYOACers help" or "really really huge problem".  I would never do that, it just sounds too silly.  But any way, can anyone suggest any other decent forums?  I have searched myself without finding much luck.

Thanks Again!

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2005, 10:37:49 am »
My Mame32 page used to be right on top of Google searches for 'Mame32', but now it's a few pages down. From reading above, I think this might be because I had some text (the 'Latest Additions' at the bottom of the page) the same color as the background. I did this because people search for Mame32 in different ways; some people might call it version v94, others 094 etc., so I listed the versions a bunch of different ways in white text on a white background.
I'll fix that and see if traffic improves.

I guess I should add a link to my signature too...

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2005, 10:47:38 am »
From looking at your site's stats, you've only got 1 hit from a Google search and has been 'crawled' once a day by the Googlebot. I'm really surprised your hits are so low. Maybe you should try mentioning brand names or movie references in your product descriptions.

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2005, 08:14:06 pm »
Thanks for the advice.  i have been meaning to add some good search words like brand names and movies i can get replicas from.  Just haven't had time to, as my 10 year old and myself both have been sick on and off the last month. 

According to my webhosts stats the googlebot has not been there since march 4th.  And the 1 hit, was probably me searching for the domain, as that was the only way I could get it to list.  Apparently, they have seen my site, and don't like it very much.

Still looking for any suggestions anyone has for decent forums that allow links.

Steve

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2005, 08:27:40 pm »
might i suggest you PUT A TITLE ON YOUR PAGES!

you have "Untitled Document" This is NOT helping you at all.

Put something like:

"Steve's Blades - Huge selection of swords, knives, klingon batleths, maces, thowing knives, throwing axes, hunting knives, fantasy knives, fantasy swords, folding knives, collectors knives."

Choose the most relevant keywords for your title, and don't make it too big, as that could get you ignored by search engines for trying to "cheat"

I have also hear that naming your .html files properly can improve rankings. like instead of index.html all the time like you have, have samurai_swords.html, or knives.html, and stuff like that.

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2005, 09:51:52 pm »
(Might be a dumb question, but eh!)
Did you submit your site to Google for crawling? It should be crawling your site more than it currently is.

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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2005, 12:00:12 am »
(Might be a dumb question, but eh!)
Did you submit your site to Google for crawling? It should be crawling your site more than it currently is.

It takes awhile for the GoogleBot to come around...but yeah, definately submit it regardless.  That will at least get your page re-indexed.

Looks like Google finally got around to re-indexing my site yesterday.  So thats a plus...now I can finally start climbing up the rankings there.  I've jumped a lot on the other search engines, but since Google had an old index of my site, its been giving me horrible rankings.
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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2005, 05:07:09 am »
klov.com boards is fine with links in sigs.

You can also use links in sigs on the herogames.com forums (even if you don't play that RPG you can still enjoy the board, as the Off Topic board there gets more posts then all the other ones put together.
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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #11 on: March 16, 2005, 09:10:35 am »
Before you worry about having all sorts of external links to your site, I'd start with your site itself.  Include more (relavant) text on the pages.  You have too many blank pages.  You don't use META tags at all.  You don't add ALTs or TITLEs on any of your pictures.  As mentioned, you have no page titles, which will make a world of difference.  Spend some time making your site more pleasing to the eye, more descriptive, and use the techniques outlined on the many HTML-primer sites out there and google will find you just fine. 

As a point of reference, my site is linked directly to only a hand full of times (< 10), but comes up in the top 20 on hundreds of different phrases from google and yahoo.


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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2005, 11:20:02 am »
Of course I submitted it.
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Re: Help with google listing
« Reply #13 on: March 16, 2005, 12:01:28 pm »
I just googled my site again.  If I search for my domain it comes up, but viewing googles cache of my site is blank.  If I search for my sites index, that comes up, but blank too.  If I search for any other page from my site, nothing comes up, only my sites main index.  And that is after 14 visits from their bot.  I think my frames might have had something to do with that.  But it does seem that they only cached my main index. 

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