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GGKoul:
A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around. You can't say the same thing about "Grunge" bands. Grunge is dying a slow death.. similar to Disco in the 70's. In 10 years from now, will the 90's grunge bands still be selling out arenas? I highly doubt it...
Also, Kurt wrote the 1st Hole album and Billy wrote the 2nd. Courtney sucks...
Finally.. Have you ever visited the Rock'n Roll Museum in Cleveland?? 99% of them WERE NOT influenced by Nirvana. Most of those bands in the HoF influenced Nirvana, The White Stripes, Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Radiohead, Beck... And they will have a longer lasting effect on the revolution f Rock'n Roll then Nirvana ever did...
DaveMMR:
--- Quote from: mr.Curmudgeon on March 13, 2005, 09:36:08 pm ---Kurt/Nirvana didn't destroy Pop Music....they destroyed cheese-ball metal hairbands (Thank god!) Pop music will never die, there's just too many people out there that need top-40 stuff.
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No, pop music still exists - but I said "destroyed" as in "it's horrible". Even those who scoff as the 80's songs that are 90% image have to agree that even something as lame as Taco's 'Putting on the Ritz' is 100 times better that any stupid Spears/Aguilera/Simpson single. That wasn't a hyperbole.
Also, grunge didn't kill it directly. It just started the chain reaction.
FractalWalk:
--- Quote from: DaveMMR on March 14, 2005, 08:42:50 am ---Even those who scoff as the 80's songs that are 90% image have to agree that even something as lame as Taco's 'Putting on the Ritz' is 100 times better that any stupid Spears/Aguilera/Simpson single.
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GGKoul:
How can you say Grunge killed pop music? Pop music probably outsold "grunge" music 2 to 1.
And the 90's saw some of the most popular "pop-bands" ever....
NSYNC
Backstreet Boys
Britney Spears
Spice Girls
The sad thing is that yesterday's grunge bands are selling out and releasing today's pop-songs.
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: GGKoul on March 14, 2005, 01:00:40 am ---A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around. You can't say the same thing about "Grunge" bands. Grunge is dying a slow death.. similar to Disco in the 70's. In 10 years from now, will the 90's grunge bands still be selling out arenas? I highly doubt it...
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That's not really a fair/honest comparison, as the nature of "alternative/indie/grunge" music was anti-establishment. Therefore, to begin with, the goal was not to sell-out arenas, and play radio-friendly pop tunes for the masses. Just as true "punk" will never be mainstream...
BTW, Grunge is a retarded marketing term created by the record industry...The spirit of that music is alive and well in some of today's biggest bands.
--- Quote ---Finally.. Have you ever visited the Rock'n Roll Museum in Cleveland?? 99% of them WERE NOT influenced by Nirvana. Most of those bands in the HoF influenced Nirvana, The White Stripes, Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Radiohead, Beck... And they will have a longer lasting effect on the revolution f Rock'n Roll then Nirvana ever did...
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Yes. I've been there, twice. Nirvana's influence on the music industry of today is unmistakable.
Of course Nirvana was influenced by earlier bands, that's not in debate. The point I was making is that bands of today, and the kids of today, who'll form the bands of tomorrow, will more than likely site Nirvana as an influence, over The Beatles and/or Black Sabbath.
Nirvana was/is a new benchmark in music. Whether you like them or not. That isn't just me saying that either. It's every music critic and/or producer since the early 90's.
--- Quote ---A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around.
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But only after they took off the makeup, cut their hair, and "grunged" up...the poseur mentality of arena-rock is gone. Nirvana changed the landscape. Look at Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, even Gn'R has "grunged" up as Velvet Revolver.
mrC