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Here we go again... dead detainee cover up at "The Salt Pit"
Crazy Cooter:
News.Yahoo.Com Link
"In November 2002, a newly minted CIA (news - web sites) case officer in charge of a secret prison just north of Kabul allegedly ordered guards to strip naked an uncooperative young Afghan detainee, chain him to the concrete floor and leave him there overnight without blankets, according to four U.S. government officials aware of the case.
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By morning, the Afghan man had frozen to death.
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The CIA case officer, meanwhile, has been promoted, two of the officials said, who like others interviewed for this article spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to talk about the matter. The case is under investigation by the CIA inspector general."
This is disturbing:
"The CIA wanted the Salt Pit to be a "host-nation facility," an Afghan prison with Afghan guards. Its designation as an Afghan facility was intended to give U.S. personnel some insulation from actions taken by Afghan guards inside, a tactic used in secret CIA prisons in other countries, former and current CIA officials said."
Spread our "democracy"? Why? Bunch of hypocrites. The US has no idea of what freedom is.
Santoro:
I won't defend any of these alleged activities, but I will say that I would bet lunch that every government on the planet uses similar tactics during wartime. It is a shame that the US seems to be the only country that anyone cares to discuss when it comes to human rights violations.
Compare these isolated incidents to the general and overt tryanny of the Taliban. Can we get no credit whatsoever for making a net change for the better in Afghanistan?
Sheesh.
SirPeale:
--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on March 04, 2005, 01:16:25 pm ---Spread our "democracy"? Why? Bunch of hypocrites. The US has no idea of what freedom is.
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Will you please stop asssociating all Americans in the same suite? Our "elected" gov't != what the people want/do.
missioncontrol:
uh-oh
mr.Curmudgeon:
--- Quote from: Santoro on March 04, 2005, 02:01:08 pm ---I won't defend any of these alleged activities, but I will say that I would bet lunch that every government on the planet uses similar tactics during wartime.
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You won't defend them, yet, right on cue, you'll excuse them with a "but I will say". Can't you just say something like, "If this truly happened, then it is wrong!" Is that too much to ask for?
--- Quote ---It is a shame that the US seems to be the only country that anyone cares to discuss when it comes to human rights violations.
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Funny. I don't find it a shame that the US, being one of the world's largest super powers, be held to a higher standard than the rest of the world. Shouldn't we lead by example, or doesn't pride mean anything anymore? Is it nothing more than a magnetic bumper sticker now?
--- Quote ---Compare these isolated incidents to the general and overt tryanny of the Taliban.
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So, you find no problem w/ comparing the U.S. to the Taliban? Even in isolated incidents? Sorry. I expect more from my countrymen.
--- Quote ---Can we get no credit whatsoever for making a net change for the better in Afghanistan?
Sheesh.
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Bush just "OK'd" a budget cut of $1.5 BILLION dollars, a good portion of which was meant to go toward aiding reconstruction in Afghanistan. These cuts comprise 50% of their reconstruction aid from the U.S....and the country is already sort on aid as it is.
So yeah, he should get credit for making the initial successes in Afghanistan, but he should also have his feet held to the fire if he fails to complete the task. Stabilizing Afghanistan is a vital part of the WoT, and it's going to take more than an election to do it.
Sheesh.
mrC