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SirPoonga:

--- Quote ---And this is the point I have been trying make here.
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tetsujin:

--- Quote from: SirPoonga on February 28, 2005, 03:54:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: RandyT on February 28, 2005, 03:51:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on February 28, 2005, 03:44:03 pm ---Putting this 49way in 4way mode will be like if you took your 8way and disabled the diagonals in mame.  You can push diagonals but they won't register.

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BZZZZT!!!  Oh, Sorry.  That answer is incorrect.    Johnny, tell him about the fine parting gifts we have for him...... :D


Not the case at all.  The accuracy of the 4 way will amaze and astound ;)

RandyT

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But then it isn't a 4way as 4ways should recognize diagonals.  To be super accurate you'd have to physically limit the stick from moving diagonal.  So how much more accurate can you get then not registering diagonals?

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An 8-way joystick is divided into eight zones - if they were perfectly symmetrical, they'd be 45 degrees each.  But for joysticks with square restrictors, the diagonal zones probably take up more space on the arc than the cardinal directions.  But the basic idea here is that the switches register only 8 possible directions, so no amount of post-processing can make any reasonable guess about which direction a diagonal is supposed to be when in 4-way mode.

The 49-way joystick delivers more resolution.  That means that if the joystick is pushed in a diagonal that's "mostly up" but still in a direction that an 8-way would register as a diagonal, there's potential for software to assign a more favorable direction to that reading.  Randy presumably spent a bunch of time playtesting different possible mappings and found some he likes.  I think it's true, what he says, about mappings being counter-intuitive.  That's often the case with software and UI - something might seem perfectly reasonable but it's only by testing in the proper context that you find out what really works.

I'd definitely agree with you that for 4-way games, the 4-way restrictor plate is very important...  Personally I have a hard time believing that a 49-way with a custom mapping and no specialized restrictor plate can deliver a comparable experience.  But I guess I'd have to try it to know for sure, right?
RandyT:

--- Quote from: SirPoonga on February 28, 2005, 03:12:10 pm ---Is your mode button also the shazaam button?  I assume this can be used as a direct replacement tot he keywiz.

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There is no Shazaaam! button on the GP-Wiz line, only the KeyWiz.


RandyT
SirPoonga:
I know someone asked what you'd use this for.

I'd like to clarify my answer.
SirPoonga:

--- Quote from: RandyT on February 28, 2005, 04:32:38 pm ---There is no Shazaaam! button on the GP-Wiz line, only the KeyWiz.

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Ouch.  Sorry man, but that just lost my sale.  If I got one I'd want to replace my existing 8ways with a 49way.  I'd only want one encoder since I have a removable panel.  And I use my pause button as a shift key, and not only for mame.

That's not going to work for me.  You almost had me until that.  That will definately not work with a removable panel on only have one cord going out of the panel and only one plug to plug into if I had both my ipac and a wiz49 in the cabinet.

Unless you see an easy way around it.
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