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tetsujin:


--- Quote from: SirPoonga on February 28, 2005, 01:08:32 pm ---
--- Quote from: tetsujin on February 28, 2005, 01:00:35 pm ---Hey,

So on another note - any options with this encoder for letting the PC host software tell the encoder which mapping to use, rather than having the user switch manually?

The choice of the correct mapping seems invariably tied to what software is running - and this is something the PC always knows.  The user generally knows what's running, too - but they shouldn't have to be involved in something that could be so easily automated...

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No, RandyT hasn't described anything like that.

The PC doesn't always know what the controls actually are (hence the controls.dat project).
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The PC always knows what game is running, and knowing what game is enough information to know what type of controls you need.  (Whether or not MAME knows the answers, the answers are there, and hence this is something that can and should be automated in the front-end.)

Because Randy hasn't described anything like that is precisely why I asked him!  :)

Wienerdog:


--- Quote from: tetsujin on February 28, 2005, 01:52:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: SirPoonga on February 28, 2005, 01:08:32 pm ---No, RandyT hasn't described anything like that.

The PC doesn't always know what the controls actually are (hence the controls.dat project).
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The PC always knows what game is running, and knowing what game is enough information to know what type of controls you need.
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Kremmit:

See, Randy, I TOLD you they would want to know about the mappings!  ;)

Look, folks, Randy's playtested this thing, and built his grids to PLAY well, rathen than LOOK good on the grid.  No, he hasn't given me any insider info (though I've been asking! ;) ) about how the grids map, but he did explain that the mechanical properties of the Midway stick make it react a little different than the way the grids look on paper, and he's built his mapping to correct for that.  Do I want to SEE the grids myself?  Yes!  But I'm not going to get to, because he feels he's done a lot of work to make his grid mappings work better than the other option on the market, and is understandably concerned that current or future competitors might piggyback off of that work.  I don't LIKE not having the grids to see, but I can UNDERSTAND his reasoning.

As for whether somebody SHOULD be using this thing and a 49 way instead of digitals and an analog- Why are we arguing over this?  Obviously, the BEST solution is always to use the correct, original controlls for each and every game.  How many people here do that?  This is an OPTION, that allows us to "get away" with using one stick for everything.  I mean, it covers 7 different sticks!  It'll work near perfect on some games, pretty good on some, barely acceptably on some, and downright poorly on some.  Whether it's worth it to save the $$ and the control panel real estate for the other 6 sticks,  is a question for each individual user, and therefore a waste of time to argue over.   

But really, even if you don't want to use the "digitally restricted" modes, it's still nice to have another 49-way option on the market.   Personally, I AM going to use a real horizontal 2-way, a real vertical 2-way, a real 4-way, a real diagonal 4-way, a real 8-way, and a real analog stick, plus the 49-way, so if I take one of these instead of the SJC, I'll probably only be using it for 49 way games most of the time. 

So, Thanks Randy!

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Randy- You said something about discontinuing support for the Williams 49 if it proved impossible to get good mappings for it.. Don't you dare!  ;D  I plan on using Williams 49s instead of the Midway 49s, for more or less the reasons Xiaou2 listed in his novel-length post- the increasing resistance felt as you move further from the center due to the spider.  I HUNGER for Sini-Star!  Even if the restriction mappings don't work out to your satisfaction (which I doubt, I bet you find they're much more straightforward than on the Midway), please leave the code in, so I can use 'em as 49s. 

And since SirP's already brought up custom mappings (see, I told ya again!) what about a 49-way only version, with 7 different levels of "progressive-ness" on the progressive scaling?

Daniel270:

I'd be really nice if someone could start repro'ing the Williams 49way as well...  I'm aware that there are only so few of them in existence....

SirPoonga:


--- Quote from: Kremmit on February 28, 2005, 02:02:07 pm ---See, Randy, I TOLD you they would want to know about the mappings!
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