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| Lilwolf:
Since your already spending too much time on this... How about a new option for you? Now that you have USB loading/configuring. |
| Toonces:
--- Quote from: RandyT on April 12, 2005, 03:06:09 pm --- --- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 12, 2005, 02:32:29 pm --- --- Quote from: Toonces on April 12, 2005, 01:54:19 pm ---Again, it's not for people who buy now, it's for people who've already purchased the VE versions that can't do a chip swap. It's the next best option for them and doesn't affect those that haven't bought one yet. --- End quote --- I forgot that the chip swap option was not an option on the Eco boards. Actually, though, it's only for the people that bought the solder version, as there's a money-back guarantee on Page 2 of this thread for the other boards. Randy has said he'll look into Parallel Port support, but if he doesn't, they can use the software you already developed, or I guess he will probably have some kind of "trade-up" offer on the new boards for previous customers. <Let me go hide before I get flamed by Randy . . .> --- End quote --- Hehe. No flaming, but let's not get confused with the guarantee. That was a performance guarantee. As I said, I will try to deal with this as humanely as possible. I'm just an (incorporated) guy, not a deep pocketed mega corporation. I've put a lot more work into this project, that should really be cause for a price hike, and I'm still not done. If I had to pay someone to write software for me, this would have been a sizable investment. But hopefully at the end, it will be all things to all people and I can move onto the next project.....and no, I won't be raising the price :) . RandyT BTW, As long as the PPort libraries aren't too crazy, I should be able to throw "unsupported" support in for them. Someone else will have to do the testing though ;). --- End quote --- Oh, BTW, How's it coming with the balltops? Time to send Vinny over to your machinist for a little "Talk"? :) Since the Midway's don't take the same size, I may just buy a couple of the new sticks with balltops from you and use the midway's in a NeoGeo cab. Thanks Again! Toonces |
| Tiger-Heli:
OKAY, THERE'VE BEEN FIVE SEVEN REPLIES SINCE I STARTED THIS, SOMEONE LET ME POST IT!!! Toonces, don't take this wrong, I think what you have done is great, but you have to realize something, which I will get to at the end of this reply: --- Quote from: Toonces on April 12, 2005, 02:45:01 pm ---Randy said he'd look at that in a future version and I'm good with that. --- End quote --- As you should be. . . --- Quote ---For people who haven't already bought the product to come along and say that they wouldn't do it because the parallel port is dying...blah blah blah is rediculous. --- End quote --- Not really. --- Quote --- He should support all versions of the product with the same type of features if it's possible and non-cost prohibitive. In this one particular case it should be. The materials are cheap to get and the programming source is available free. It does cost some of his time though to add a feature to a program he is already writing. Is that such an unreasonable request? --- End quote --- Okay, now to the meat of my reply. RandyT never added support for switching modes via the parallel port to the original board. You (Toonces) figured that out b/c you found a relay board that could accept parallel port output to set the relays and figured out how to interface this with the original board. I again commend you for this. However, you probably could have found a way to control some type of relay board using the serial port, or firewire, or bluetooth, or IDE, or Serial ATA or any number of other protocols. Does that mean that RandyT must ensure that the new software can also communicate via any of the protocols I mentioned above, just in case some user finds a way to program an old board that way? (not to me, it doesn't). Is it unreasonable to ask Randy to support parallel port programming, since you have working hardware that uses it? (not to me, it's not, but you've already asked that and Randy's already said he would try. And for that matter, if Randy were to say - I tried and it's not worth my trouble, then I think that's fair enough and all you can ask). --- Quote ---How many times was it asked about mode switching via USB or under computer control? What were Randy's answers? To paraphrase "Someone else can figure out how to make it switch automatically" --- End quote --- I think if you re-read the thread (I don't intend to), Randy's answers were more along the lines of "The current version does not support software switching." Which is true, and the new version will. --- Quote --- Now, he is adding support for such. A major selling point. Automatically reconfiguring controls! Those that bought the solder versions early are just SOL? --- End quote --- All manufacturers have the right to support their products and upgrade them as they see fit. The GP-Wiz49 came out after a lot of people bought P360's and/or Oscar's push/pull spinner was released right after SOMEONE bought a basic version, or discontinued right before SOMEONE ELSE would buy it. It happens, and sometimes people are SOL. --- Quote ---It unifiy's support for the FE programmers too. They don't have to do anything different. They call the same app and can integrate it much tighter than if they have to let the user be able to change it to a different app in order to support the older Eco versions. --- End quote --- Hate to bust your bubble, and it's great that GamEx added support for it, but I think all the other FE devs have been sitting on the fence, and will likely add support for Randy's software solution only and not the previous parallel port support solution. |
| Tiger-Heli:
--- Quote from: RandyT on April 12, 2005, 03:06:09 pm ---Hehe. No flaming, but let's not get confused with the guarantee. That was a performance guarantee. As I said, I will try to deal with this as humanely as possible. I'm just an (incorporated) guy, not a deep pocketed mega corporation. I've put a lot more work into this project, that should really be cause for a price hike, and I'm still not done. If I had to pay someone to write software for me, this would have been a sizable investment. But hopefully at the end, it will be all things to all people and I can move onto the next project.....and no, I won't be raising the price :) . RandyT BTW, As long as the PPort libraries aren't too crazy, I should be able to throw "unsupported" support in for them. Someone else will have to do the testing though ;). --- End quote --- Well-stated. Thanks, Randy!!! |
| Toonces:
--- Quote from: Tiger-Heli on April 12, 2005, 03:23:31 pm ---Hate to bust your bubble, and it's great that GamEx added support for it, but I think all the other FE devs have been sitting on the fence, and will likely add support for Randy's software solution only and not the previous parallel port support solution. --- End quote --- And therein lies my point. By adding support by using the free, available DLL to his app, Randy can ensure ALL of his customers that bought early have the opportunity to experience the best features of his product. Toonces |
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