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| tetsujin:
--- Quote from: RandyT on February 27, 2005, 11:30:27 pm --- --- Quote from: Xiaou2 on February 27, 2005, 10:57:09 pm --- While nice for standard 49 way... I personally see the additional features as purely a novelty. If playing a 2way game of galaga... and you accidentally press down+diagnol left... then your move will not register. This will mean you will have made a costly pause.. and may have died as a result of the non action. --- End quote --- Statements like these make me think the unwritten rule stating that one should have some real experience with something before "poo-poo"ing it, should actually be put in writing. I'm not sure what you are referring to with the above, but I wholeheartedly assure you that this does NOT happen. --- End quote --- While I can appreciate that you want to keep details of your work to yourself, you are the only one who can explain why this is not the case. If I'm to accept that this digital restrictor thing really is useful, I need to know what it does that MAME wouldn't. |
| SirPoonga:
--- Quote from: sWampy on February 28, 2005, 10:08:52 am ---What are the differences between the $22.95 "No-Solder" Eco Version and the $34.95 GP-Wiz49 MAX Interface Board? --- End quote --- |
| tetsujin:
--- Quote from: sWampy on February 28, 2005, 10:08:52 am ---What are the differences between the $22.95 "No-Solder" Eco Version and the $34.95 GP-Wiz49 MAX Interface Board? A couple of screws and some standoffs don't sound worth $12. --- End quote --- If you feel the screw-connects aren't worth $12, you don't have to pay for them. (Really, it's great that we get the option. $20 is a great price point for the GP encoders IMO.) You can add them yourself. In fact, I've considered doing exactly that with my GP-Wiz Eco... ...But then I realized that I really didn't want to deal with the extra work of setting up screw-terminals on a second board, connecting the first board to the second, and then connecting the controls... When I think about that, paying an extra $15 to have that stuff on the board doesn't sound so bad. :) |
| sWampy:
--- Quote from: tetsujin on February 28, 2005, 10:33:43 am --- --- Quote from: sWampy on February 28, 2005, 10:08:52 am ---What are the differences between the $22.95 "No-Solder" Eco Version and the $34.95 GP-Wiz49 MAX Interface Board? A couple of screws and some standoffs don't sound worth $12. --- End quote --- If you feel the screw-connects aren't worth $12, you don't have to pay for them. (Really, it's great that we get the option. $20 is a great price point for the GP encoders IMO.) You can add them yourself. In fact, I've considered doing exactly that with my GP-Wiz Eco... ...But then I realized that I really didn't want to deal with the extra work of setting up screw-terminals on a second board, connecting the first board to the second, and then connecting the controls... When I think about that, paying an extra $15 to have that stuff on the board doesn't sound so bad. :) --- End quote --- So the cheap one has just holes, the middle has pins soldered in, and the max has screw posts? The description in the message or the web site don't make that point very clear. |
| NoOne=NBA=:
--- Quote from: tetsujin on February 28, 2005, 10:18:03 am ---While I can appreciate that you want to keep details of your work to yourself, you are the only one who can explain why this is not the case. --- End quote --- I thought I did a pretty good job of it, given that I didn't have any "inside" info. --- Quote --- --- End quote --- If I'm to accept that this digital restrictor thing really is useful, I need to know what it does that MAME wouldn't. --- Quote --- --- End quote --- The digital restrictor SHOULD prevent MAME from seeing data that it can't use (i.e. a diagonal signal in a 4-way game). Again, I'm not SURE how it was implemented by Randy in this specific instance though. Using the P360 for example, it is fully capable of sending MAME a diagonal input. At that point MAME has to decide what to do with it. The standard is for it to completely ignore any control input until the stick is back at a TRUE direction. That results in HUGE dead spots in the corners. The restrictor on the 49-way has two options for overcoming this: 1) It can ignore any TRUE diagonal (i.e. x=2, y=2), and send x=2/y=1 as Right and x=1/y=2 as Up. This will create a deadspot in the stick along the EXACT diagonal path, but will be a smaller one than the P-360 has due to the increased resolution on the 49-way. 2) The grid can be weighted so that the TRUE diagonals send either a Right signal, or an Up signal, rather than sending unusable data. I THINK this is the route Randy opted for, but only he can confirm that. This method results in NO dead spot, and NO unusable data being sent to MAME. Randy said that this device functions as closely as possible to the real thing, and this option is as close as I can get on a 49-way grid to a 4-way controller. |
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