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--- Quote from: kcoleman on March 30, 2005, 01:16:47 am ---Do  you need to use  analog+ for multiple 49 way optical joysticks ...
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No.


--- Quote --- or if you order the different device numbers does window [differentiate]
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yes


--- Quote ---and mame differentiate between player 1 and playe two automatically.
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Windows does the differentiating, mame just follows.


FWIW, the differentiate/not-differentiate doesn't matter if it's "optical" or "Hall Effect" or "optomechanical" or "digital" or "POT"; it only matters if windows thinks it's a joystick device, or a mouse device.  Example: those laptop "thumb stick mice", the orange dot in the middle of some keyboards, are physically analog joysticks, but installed as mouse devices, so the act like mice.

IntruderAlert:


--- Quote from: Kremmit on March 26, 2005, 01:20:46 am ---Hmm, found Wizard of Wor CP pics- a little blurry, but:




Hard to see the good bits, but looks like they're Pac sticks with the extra leaves you hypothesized, No_One.

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I remember that
It was one of my friend's favorite games
Could you post a good shot of the artwork on the front of the CP?
I'd really like to see it

Kremmit:


--- Quote from: IntruderAlert on March 30, 2005, 04:16:52 pm ---I remember that
It was one of my friend's favorite games
Could you post a good shot of the artwork on the front of the CP?
I'd really like to see it

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Nope, that's not my panel, it's just a pic I found on the net.

Haven't had a chance to get back to the Williams sticks yet- Real Lifetm keeps getting in the way.

Percipio:

Just got mine hooked up tonight.  I used the floppy cable without too much trouble (just make sure you count before cutting every other wire - GAH!)

Had a chance to play a little Ms. Pac and some Q-Bert.  The 4-Way mode was great as were the diagonals.  Looking forward to getting some more stick time in - but my pillow calls...



Kremmit:

Ok, got a chance to play with the Williams sticks again.  Tonight I tried to get that 720 thing going- and it's a success!

First thing I did was to take my beat-up stick apart.  I dismounted the ball pivot assembly, took it apart, and soaked those parts in gasoline.  While the soaking was happening, I cleaned the plastic sliders, and lubed them with Lithium Grease.  Then I went back to the pivot parts, and scrubbed them down with a toothbrush.  I re-lubed the pivot assembly, and put the whole thing back together, but without the spider.  Then I remounted the stick.  I was very pleased with the feel- the stick spun freely in a circle, and I'm sure with a new spider it would feel and play like new.  Without the spider, it seems to naturally want to stay at the outside of the circle, rather than bounce back and forth through the middle.  A little resistance like that provided by the chain assembly on a real 720 stick would be nice, but otherwise, it feels a lot like a real one.  The handle seems a little shorter than I remember, but then again, my 49-way is mounted under 3/4 inches of plywood, so there's room for improvement there.  The angle is probably a little more upright, too, but that doesn't seem to matter much.  I was pretty happy with the feel, mechanically, so on to the software:

I fired up MAME 0.90, and tried 720.  I had to enable joystick support for the game, and remap the controls to the stick's analog axes.  The 16-way digital restriction built in to the GP-Wiz49 worked, but not so well.  Raw49 mode worked better.  In fact, it worked pretty darn well!  The skater rotated smoothly, and always went in the direction the stick was pointing.  I've tried to play this game in MAME with 8-ways, keyboard, mouse, PC analog joystick, etc, and never could make it play worth a darn.  With this setup, I was able to get on the half pipe and score some 700 point tricks on the first real game of 720 I've played in years- and I'm sure I'll be able to do better once I get some practice in.  I'm certainly happy with it, and it's how I'll be playing 720 from here on out.

So, to sum up-

    * 16-way DRS is a flop, and can be replaced with something else if you want, Randy (sorry)   :'(
    * A beat-up Williams 49 way can be restored with a little cleaning, lube, and a new spider   8)
    * 720 plays well with a spider-less Williams 49-way   8) 8) 8)

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