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New Product: 49-Way USB Interface - The GP-Wiz49 with DRS Technology (TM)
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RandyT:

--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 01, 2005, 05:38:33 pm ---The main problem for me is that it's USB only. I realise that USB is the future but I'm not yet ready to commit to a USB only solution because I still occasionally use DOS. It would be nice to have a ps/2 mode like the Ipacs, even if analogue wasn't available in that mode.

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This is an analog game device, not a keyboard encoder.  Wrong page, wrong book.  Unless you are looking for a legacy gameport device.....


--- Quote ---Also, what about game consoles? A lot of people want to interface their console to arcade controls but cannot do so because some games require an analogue joystick. This board might provide a solution if it could emulate a playstation gamepad (no need to emulate gamepads for other consoles as converters are available). Ok, I know a 49 way stick isn't true analogue but it might be good enough for many games.

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Well, it can't cut curly fries either, but that also wasn't in the in the design scope of the product.


--- Quote ---I'd also like to reiterate what others have already said. There needs to be a way of changing the joystick's mode through software as well as by pressing buttons. And programmable customised grids would also be very useful.

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I felt this type of extra baggage had the possibility of jeopardizing cross-platform HID compliance.  It also de-simplifies the use of the device by requiring software to use it.
In some instances it would be good, but not so good in others.

Here's a little insight into software and encoders:  Less than 20% (if even that many) bother using it.  The rest happily take the simple route of using defaults.


--- Quote ---One final thing. I agree with Paige. It's a bit silly of you to say the 7*7 grids you have used are proprietary and thus secret. It's not us, the ordinary customers, you need to worry about but your competitors. They will reverse engineer your boards whether you like it or not. And somehow I suspect your threat to stop producing any new products if anyone spills the beans will not deter them.

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No, but the paperwork I am in the midst of filing probably will.  ;)


--- Quote ---Hiding legitimate (and easily obtainable) information from potential customers is poor marketing IMHO. It's also poor marketing to ask for 'constructive comments' and then complain when you get them.

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Some of the comments made in this thread were less than "constructive", and incidentally, made by some of the "usual suspects".  As far as my marketing skills go, when you have a few successful products under your belt, come see me.  Otherwise, I'm not sure what qualifies your opinion of them.  And unlike some, I don't hang out here just to do "marketing".  I've been a contributing member here for a long time and for better or worse, people see the real me.  I don't let people twist my lemons just so I can make a sale, and I don't do things I see as inappropriate because of "mob rule". 

BTW, when was the last time you called up HP and expected them to tell you the engineering principles behind their new ink cartridges.  I'll bet you just bought it and were happy when it worked well, didn't you?  How is this so different?

RandyT

Magnet_Eye:
Looks cool, but how do we play rotating games like Ikari Warriors, Time Soldiers and Heavy Barrel with a 49 stick?

Grasshopper:

--- Quote from: RandyT on March 02, 2005, 02:08:34 am ---

--- Quote ---One final thing. I agree with Paige. It's a bit silly of you to say the 7*7 grids you have used are proprietary and thus secret. It's not us, the ordinary customers, you need to worry about but your competitors. They will reverse engineer your boards whether you like it or not. And somehow I suspect your threat to stop producing any new products if anyone spills the beans will not deter them.

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No, but the paperwork I am in the midst of filing probably will.  ;)

RandyT



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If you're thinking in patenting/copyrighting this idea, I should point out that I (and probably others here) thought of it first.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,18826.msg149936.html#msg149936

But don't worry I'm releasing the idea into the public domain, so I won't be charging you royalties. ;D
paigeoliver:
I posted the way I would interpret such grids in another thread. I didn't post them here because I didn't want this thread to go off track into an arguement about how to interpret the grids. I am already ashamed that there is arguing going on in this thread. Whenever a vendor releases a new product for us it is a good thing, period. I don't care if it is a doohicky that makes a Namco gun function as a 2 way joystick, it would still be a good thing.
Grasshopper:

--- Quote from: RandyT on March 02, 2005, 02:08:34 am ---
--- Quote from: Grasshopper on March 01, 2005, 05:38:33 pm ---The main problem for me is that it's USB only. I realise that USB is the future but I'm not yet ready to commit to a USB only solution because I still occasionally use DOS. It would be nice to have a ps/2 mode like the Ipacs, even if analogue wasn't available in that mode.

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This is an analog game device, not a keyboard encoder.  Wrong page, wrong book.  Unless you are looking for a legacy gameport device.....


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You couldn't use the raw and progressive modes with a ps/2 interface as they are pseudo analogue. But I don't see why the DRS modes couldn't be converted to simulated keypresses.

Also bear in mind there are ps/2 to console converters available. I used one to interface my Ipac to my Dreamcast.

Just a few 'constructive' thoughts. It's your product after all....

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