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Goz:

I made a trip today on my lunch hour to the local Dave & Busters for a pint and some games. I was really surprised when I came accross 2 rows of redemption / arcade games made by Ultracade. On top of the redemption / arcade games there was 4 of the std Ultracade 86 game craptacular cabs.

I thought about talking to management and telling them about how Foley is a duche bag, but opted for the high road. Karma is a boom-a-rang and he will be screwed when it comes arround.

-Goz

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http://www.aarongiles.com/index.html


--- Quote ---Aaron Giles' Home Page
March 16, 2005

Some basic answers

A lot of the worrying and questions on the previous post are silly. I'm closing down comments on that for now.

Answers to the obvious stuff:

1. You can discuss MAME all you want without putting a (tm) next to it. You'll notice that you don't have to put a (tm) next to Windows if you talk about it on a message board, now do you?

2. If you currently sell ROMs or ROM distribution services, you're already breaking the law. There is nothing new about the trademark apart from the fact that you can't use the name "MAME" to advertise your illegal services.

3. There is currently discussion going on around the MAME license. Getting the devs to agree on something like this is like herding cats, so it will take a while for some clarity to prevail there.

That's it for now. Go about your lives. Stop the hand wringing over what this all means. When official information becomes available, a lot of this will be made clear. Unfortunately this stuff takes time. Be patient.
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Crazy Cooter:

If anyone is wondering what Ultracade charges for ROM's (as a possible indicator for Foley's iROM service), I point you to this ebay posting:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13718&item=6156986509&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

This is a BRAND NEW ULTRACADE JUNGLE KING UPGRADE.  Add this all time favorite to your "Ultimate Arcade" machine!

Buy it now price is... $399.00!
He said before he would charge under $10, I guess we could safely assume he'll be somewhere between $10 & $300 for each title.::)

SirPeale:

You can't go by what that auction is asking.  They *routinely* overprice everything they put on eBay.

They're located in a very high disposable income area of CT, and since the guy that owns the store can actually get the insane prices he's asking, he's not going to lower them anytime soon.  I was trying to work out a deal to get some empties and parts when one of his workers was trying to clear out one of his warehouses.  At first he was being decent with his prices, but then he saw that stuff was flying out, he changed his tune.  Suddenly empty Pac Man cabs were worth $300.

Chris:


--- Quote from: Crazy Cooter on March 20, 2005, 11:37:48 pm ---Buy it now price is... $399.00!
He said before he would charge under $10, I guess we could safely assume he'll be somewhere between $10 & $300 for each title.::)

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Apples and oranges. First, Ultracade isn't the seller here.  Second, he's selling Jungle King with a Commercial Use license, not a home use license.

HOWEVER... how can Ultracade legally sell a Jungle King pack at all?  Wasn't Jungle King pulled in favor of Jungle Hunt because of a lawsuit from the Tarzan copyright holders?

--Chris


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