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| KevSteele:
--- Quote from: APFelon on February 21, 2005, 10:19:27 am ---This is from R. Belmont: Mame.Net Forum Link --- Quote ---According to a post by Kevin Steele on alt.games.mame, Foley is already threatening eBay auctions which mention MAME (e.g. Dream Ultimates cabinet kits), and he plans to sue MAMEdev (and Razoola?) over the CPS-2 XOR scheme. Make of that what you will. --- End quote --- I don't have access to that group through either of my NSPs, so I can't verify Belmont's source. APf --- End quote --- I've been a bit misquoted. Here's my post on alt.game.mame: It looks like David Foley of Ultracade filed for a trademark on January 11th, 2005 for both "MAME" and "Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator", and has hired lawyers in both the US and UK to go after anyone using the terms, starting with auctions on eBay (apparently, a Dream Arcades cabinet auction was pulled because it mentioned MAME...) In addition, it looks like Mr. Foley may be going after the MAME emulator itself, claiming that the code that circumvents copy protection in the CP32 emulation violates the law and is illegal. This story is just breaking, but I'll report what I find as soon as I know more... - - - - - - This is based on emails I've seen from Mr. Foley, including the following quote: "While the MAME software is open source, the trademark is not. Open source also does not mean that MAME and it's code is not violating many copyrights and patents. Furthermore, any games the circumvent copy protection, such as CPS2 games, can not be legally emulated unless a specific license (such as we have from Capcom) is obtained, therefore, any distribution of MAME that supports CPS2 games is illegal." His true colors are coming out, and his "open arms" to the MAME community are concealing daggers... Kevin |
| Gunstar Hero:
I remember in early Ultracades the CPS emulation was remarkably similar to Callus. Same little glitches... eevrything. I'll bet Ultracade is cobbled together from every other "free" emulator on the net. :P |
| Fat_Trucker:
Seems that the news needs to be distributed as widely as possible and perhaps lobbying for a wholesale boycott of his products is in order. Seems likely that a large proportion of his business might come from the retro-games community and in the absence of his apparent willingness to change tack it's down to everyone to vote with their feet (and wallets). |
| walls83:
Well hes got a new letter out. http://www.ultracade.com/openoffer.pdf He will withdraw the application if mame helps him to stop commercial use of mame. |
| Witchboard:
--- Quote ---We will be happy to cancel our application and work with the M.A.M.E. team to assign it to its rightful owners; however we do want to prevent it from being awarded to someone that intends to use it commercially. --- End quote --- I find this part humorous. |
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