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| gprime:
I don't even think he's got a chance of successfully registering the MAME trademark. Clearly the MAME project has been using it longer than he has, and the logos aren't even his. With hundreds of Slashdotters emailing their opinions to the appriopriate people, surely it will be rejected. It blows my mind how he thinks to come off the "good guy" by registering someone elses trademark. I mean, why not ask the MAME guys to do this, if you're really just trying to protect the community from piracy. If he does win the rights to the trademark, then something is definately not right. --- Quote ---4.) He has been trying to enforce it already, on relatively innocent bystanders --- End quote --- Does anyone know how extreme he is when it comes to eBay and MAME. I agree with fighting auctions selling ROMs, but does he try to remove auctions with regular (legal) hardware ? (ie, MAME cabinets without ROMs, and without implying they get "free roms" with it). |
| Fat_Trucker:
Just read both of his 'responses'. So what he is actually trying to do is eradicate any legal competition to his organisation or products. By the same argument Toshiba should immediately stop anyone else from selling TV's or DVD players since they might concievably be used to run or view pirate material......correct me if i'm wrong anyone. Other vendors selling fully functional MAME machines or the technology that makes them possible is not committing any kind of offence or breaking any trade law as far as I am aware so long as they are not involved with the distribution of illegal roms. He's not trying to protect his interests or his business, he is trying to put his competitors out of business and pervert everything that the open source MAME community stands for. Regardless of any assertations he might make, if he gains control of the MAME trademark it will only be a matter of time before everyone is expected to pay for the privelidge of using anything relating to it....he's simply trying to cash in. I'm not a vendor, I don't sell anything MAME related or otherwise, I don't buy or download pirated software. I appreciate MAME for the reasons it was intended, I'm just another home-brew enthusiast and regardless of any assertations he makes I think what he is doing is disgusting and hope he and his company quickly fall flat on their arse. Should he decide to continue with his current course of action I think some kind of organised opposition is in order. The MAME community is surely large enough and resourceful enough to polarise opinion into positive action to the detriment of this despicable individuals business. |
| Paul Olson:
Thanks for posting the letters, I still don't see the link on his page. His argument does sound plausible when he states it, but it doesn't seem to hold up well. First of all, no matter what he wants to accomplish, he has no right to try to trademark someone elses work. Second, reread emdkays post a few posts back. Foley contacted him trying to get royalties, not trying to stop the spread of "MAME piracy". Emdkay doesn't even do what Foley complains about in his letter. Emdkay offers an artwork printing service to the hobbyists. According to Foley's letter, this is not who he is trying to go after. Paul |
| Fat_Trucker:
--- Quote from: BrokenBones1 on February 21, 2005, 06:54:05 am ---His comments look 3/4 reasonable. Looks like he just wants "apples for apples" comparison when advertising cabs for sale. I really don't see how it could be worth the expense to attempt to enforce it and anything like this that attracts attention to the whole MAME hobby/business is probably not a good thing. --- End quote --- Then what he should be doing is taking action against vendors of illegal roms that he owns the copyright or distribution rights to. This doesn't give him a licence to steal someone elses IP because he's making money from the same idea. |
| Fat_Trucker:
--- Quote from: pcolson on February 21, 2005, 07:40:34 am ---Thanks for posting the letters, I still don't see the link on his page. His argument does sound plausible when he states it, but it doesn't seem to hold up well. First of all, no matter what he wants to accomplish, he has no right to try to trademark someone elses work. Second, reread emdkays post a few posts back. Foley contacted him trying to get royalties, not trying to stop the spread of "MAME piracy". Emdkay doesn't even do what Foley complains about in his letter. Emdkay offers an artwork printing service to the hobbyists. According to Foley's letter, this is not who he is trying to go after. Paul --- End quote --- Probably the most important and relevant point in the entire thread. The guy has already struck his colours and if he is allowed to proceed it could be the beginning of the end for the entire community. |
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